1 00:00:05,660 --> 00:00:02,800 [Music] 2 00:00:08,179 --> 00:00:05,670 congratulations YouTube you did it you 3 00:00:10,669 --> 00:00:08,189 wore me down and you sucked me back in I 4 00:00:13,249 --> 00:00:10,679 have too many subscribers here just to 5 00:00:15,799 --> 00:00:13,259 walk away entirely especially with no 6 00:00:17,990 --> 00:00:15,809 alternative that truly stacks up and so 7 00:00:21,410 --> 00:00:18,000 many copycat channels uploading my shows 8 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:21,420 for me anyway but we can't forget the th 9 00:00:25,820 --> 00:00:23,730 C's account here is on thin ice 10 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:25,830 and so the YouTube version of the show 11 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:28,410 has to be prefaced with this little PSA 12 00:00:32,959 --> 00:00:31,650 only to say that episodes that contain 13 00:00:35,270 --> 00:00:32,969 the kinds of themes that have been 14 00:00:37,549 --> 00:00:35,280 regularly banned on YouTube will not 15 00:00:39,739 --> 00:00:37,559 appear here and even with that 16 00:00:42,079 --> 00:00:39,749 precaution there's already enough in the 17 00:00:43,790 --> 00:00:42,089 archive to get us removed so remember 18 00:00:46,219 --> 00:00:43,800 that the higher side chats could be 19 00:00:48,469 --> 00:00:46,229 banned or put in timeout again at any 20 00:00:50,719 --> 00:00:48,479 time and I won't be able to tell you 21 00:00:52,610 --> 00:00:50,729 guys about it so if you feel like it's 22 00:00:55,099 --> 00:00:52,620 been too long since you've heard from me 23 00:00:57,379 --> 00:00:55,109 here on this digital dystopian draconian 24 00:01:00,020 --> 00:00:57,389 data-mining monster of a police state 25 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:00,030 seeking platform your first step should 26 00:01:05,060 --> 00:01:02,010 be to check the higher side shots calm 27 00:01:15,230 --> 00:01:05,070 for the latest shows alright alright 28 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:23,600 [Music] 29 00:01:29,730 --> 00:01:26,910 the planets puppet-masters almost sure 30 00:01:32,370 --> 00:01:29,740 you have a plan it's clearly maybe 31 00:01:35,310 --> 00:01:32,380 something there beyond the realm of man 32 00:01:38,430 --> 00:01:35,320 until we've thoroughly tested every last 33 00:01:41,020 --> 00:01:38,440 close just did you find the boy you 34 00:01:43,230 --> 00:01:41,030 think you know less you really do 35 00:01:47,170 --> 00:01:43,240 [Music] 36 00:01:55,580 --> 00:01:50,390 we know the lying to us just don't know 37 00:02:01,140 --> 00:01:55,590 what to green where would we be without 38 00:02:10,940 --> 00:02:03,350 okay car wouldn't come 39 00:02:14,190 --> 00:02:10,950 [Music] 40 00:02:15,990 --> 00:02:14,200 all right higher side chatters we know 41 00:02:18,059 --> 00:02:16,000 the world is filled with mystery and 42 00:02:19,890 --> 00:02:18,069 secrets those pesky puppet masters the 43 00:02:21,900 --> 00:02:19,900 power pyramid have no interest in 44 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:21,910 sharing with us but we've seen many 45 00:02:26,010 --> 00:02:24,010 indications in the last few years that 46 00:02:28,410 --> 00:02:26,020 something big is going on in Antarctica 47 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:28,420 and why shouldn't there be yes we've 48 00:02:32,309 --> 00:02:30,370 been told it's a huge sad lonely block 49 00:02:34,380 --> 00:02:32,319 of ice nothing but a diving board for 50 00:02:36,690 --> 00:02:34,390 penguins but we're talking about five 51 00:02:38,670 --> 00:02:36,700 and a half million square miles a 52 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:38,680 landmass the size of the United States 53 00:02:43,530 --> 00:02:40,810 and Mexico combined and when you 54 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:43,540 consider the fluctuations resources and 55 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:45,370 even historical clues that could be lost 56 00:02:50,220 --> 00:02:48,130 on a landmass that size I find it highly 57 00:02:52,650 --> 00:02:50,230 suspicious to present it as a total 58 00:02:54,810 --> 00:02:52,660 waste of time because it wasn't a waste 59 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:54,820 of time per then Secretary of State John 60 00:02:59,280 --> 00:02:57,370 Kerry or Newt Gingrich Buzz Aldrin or 61 00:03:01,170 --> 00:02:59,290 the patriarch of Russia or any of the 62 00:03:03,270 --> 00:03:01,180 other privileged people tasked with 63 00:03:05,729 --> 00:03:03,280 making trips to such a wasteland in 64 00:03:07,470 --> 00:03:05,739 recent years doesn't seem to be a waste 65 00:03:09,750 --> 00:03:07,480 of time for the multitude of major 66 00:03:11,819 --> 00:03:09,760 corporations and military contractors 67 00:03:14,069 --> 00:03:11,829 who are also very much active on the big 68 00:03:16,020 --> 00:03:14,079 block of nothing throw in the legendary 69 00:03:17,759 --> 00:03:16,030 speculation of a passageway to the Inner 70 00:03:20,670 --> 00:03:17,769 Earth and you got yourself some real 71 00:03:22,259 --> 00:03:20,680 reasons to wonder though today on THC 72 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:22,269 we're gonna get past the guessing and 73 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Michael Salah who recently 74 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:26,230 released a heavy book about this very 75 00:03:30,990 --> 00:03:28,810 subject and the hidden history secret 76 00:03:33,180 --> 00:03:31,000 bases and real geography of the icy 77 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:33,190 continent entitled Antarctica's hidden 78 00:03:37,650 --> 00:03:35,530 history corporate foundations of secret 79 00:03:41,039 --> 00:03:37,660 space programs which weighs in at over 80 00:03:43,050 --> 00:03:41,049 300 fascinating pages if you don't know 81 00:03:45,060 --> 00:03:43,060 dr. Salah he's been a pioneer in the 82 00:03:47,940 --> 00:03:45,070 development of XO politics the political 83 00:03:49,229 --> 00:03:47,950 study of the key actors institutions and 84 00:03:52,110 --> 00:03:49,239 processes associated with 85 00:03:53,610 --> 00:03:52,120 extraterrestrial life he has a PhD in 86 00:03:55,770 --> 00:03:53,620 government from the University of 87 00:03:57,390 --> 00:03:55,780 Queensland Australia and an MA and 88 00:03:59,400 --> 00:03:57,400 philosophy from the University of 89 00:04:02,250 --> 00:03:59,410 Melbourne he's written several other 90 00:04:04,259 --> 00:04:02,260 great books on intriguing topics like XO 91 00:04:06,690 --> 00:04:04,269 politics political implications of the 92 00:04:08,550 --> 00:04:06,700 extra-terrestrial presence insiders 93 00:04:11,220 --> 00:04:08,560 reveal secret space programs in 94 00:04:12,210 --> 00:04:11,230 extraterrestrial alliances and Kennedy's 95 00:04:15,379 --> 00:04:12,220 last stand 96 00:04:19,020 --> 00:04:15,389 Eisenhower UFOs mj-12 and the JFK 97 00:04:20,940 --> 00:04:19,030 assassination dr. Saleh also founded the 98 00:04:24,660 --> 00:04:20,950 exo Politics Institute in 99 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:24,670 2005 the EXO politics journal in 2006 NE 100 00:04:28,740 --> 00:04:26,770 has Co organized five international 101 00:04:30,990 --> 00:04:28,750 conferences on extraterrestrial life and 102 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:31,000 earth transformation on the Big Island 103 00:04:35,550 --> 00:04:33,490 of Hawaii truly a man on a mission to 104 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:35,560 break the chains of secrecy reveal the 105 00:04:39,990 --> 00:04:37,690 hidden hands in global affairs and usher 106 00:04:41,910 --> 00:04:40,000 in a new world of knowing dr. Michael 107 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:41,920 Saleh welcome to the higher side a 108 00:04:47,370 --> 00:04:45,730 little huh Greg glad to be here man I am 109 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:47,380 just super excited for this one I'm a 110 00:04:51,870 --> 00:04:49,330 big enthusiast of anything inner earth 111 00:04:53,850 --> 00:04:51,880 or Antarctica related and your book does 112 00:04:56,250 --> 00:04:53,860 contain a good amount of documentation 113 00:04:58,170 --> 00:04:56,260 and the pulling together of threads to 114 00:04:59,790 --> 00:04:58,180 form a cohesive timeline for what's 115 00:05:00,240 --> 00:04:59,800 really been going on down there over the 116 00:05:02,670 --> 00:05:00,250 years 117 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:02,680 but just to lay a good base here talk to 118 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:04,690 us about the landscape of Antarctica 119 00:05:08,130 --> 00:05:06,370 because there have been some fresh 120 00:05:10,650 --> 00:05:08,140 announcements in the last few years that 121 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:10,660 really confirm that the conditions are 122 00:05:14,430 --> 00:05:12,730 better for life and maybe even secret 123 00:05:17,850 --> 00:05:14,440 bases then we might have thought 124 00:05:20,010 --> 00:05:17,860 previously is that right that's right 125 00:05:22,530 --> 00:05:20,020 quick the first thing people have to 126 00:05:25,230 --> 00:05:22,540 keep in mind is that Antarctica as you 127 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:25,240 mentioned is a vast landmass and on the 128 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:28,050 surface there are near the coastline a 129 00:05:33,270 --> 00:05:31,450 number of bases that have been set up by 130 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:33,280 national governments there's 131 00:05:37,260 --> 00:05:35,770 approximately 50 different nations that 132 00:05:40,230 --> 00:05:37,270 have signed up to the antarctic treaty 133 00:05:42,840 --> 00:05:40,240 that had bases there and these bases do 134 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:42,850 a lot of scientific research that's 135 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:44,530 where they do the climate studies the 136 00:05:49,140 --> 00:05:46,450 penguin studies they look at the oceans 137 00:05:50,580 --> 00:05:49,150 and measure the melt of the ice and so 138 00:05:55,530 --> 00:05:50,590 forth so these are kind of legitimate 139 00:05:57,660 --> 00:05:55,540 science projects but the real covert 140 00:06:01,350 --> 00:05:57,670 stuff is happening deep under the ice 141 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:01,360 sheets and this is what we really like 142 00:06:08,670 --> 00:06:05,770 exploring now what is under that two 143 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:08,680 mile of ice that covers a lot of the 144 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:11,650 surface of Antarctica and there's been a 145 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:14,890 lot of rumors speculation going back 146 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:18,370 many decades about Germans escaping to 147 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:20,770 Antarctica establishing bases deep under 148 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:22,810 the underground ice but what's different 149 00:06:28,020 --> 00:06:26,050 now is that mainstream science has 150 00:06:30,900 --> 00:06:28,030 finally caught up and is acknowledging 151 00:06:34,410 --> 00:06:30,910 that deep under the Antarctic ice there 152 00:06:35,060 --> 00:06:34,420 is a vast ecosystem which is thermally 153 00:06:38,840 --> 00:06:35,070 heater 154 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:38,850 which is oxygenated which is a balmy 25 155 00:06:43,910 --> 00:06:40,730 degrees Celsius where there can be 156 00:06:46,430 --> 00:06:43,920 vegetation and it's very habitable so 157 00:06:48,170 --> 00:06:46,440 this is the first time that it has been 158 00:06:50,930 --> 00:06:48,180 acknowledged by scientists that 159 00:06:54,290 --> 00:06:50,940 underneath that two miles of ice you got 160 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:54,300 a vast landscape of an unknown territory 161 00:06:58,220 --> 00:06:56,130 and this is where it gets really 162 00:07:01,610 --> 00:06:58,230 interesting because now we actually have 163 00:07:03,950 --> 00:07:01,620 a possibility of verifying that the 164 00:07:06,620 --> 00:07:03,960 Germans did indeed established bases 165 00:07:10,370 --> 00:07:06,630 under the ice sheets back in the mid 166 00:07:12,710 --> 00:07:10,380 nineteen forties yes yes and it is a lot 167 00:07:14,780 --> 00:07:12,720 to unpack and I guess to get into the 168 00:07:16,910 --> 00:07:14,790 story itself if we're gonna be somewhat 169 00:07:19,550 --> 00:07:16,920 linear it's a tangled web of course it 170 00:07:21,770 --> 00:07:19,560 includes many of the nefarious names we 171 00:07:24,530 --> 00:07:21,780 know the Dulles brothers the Bush family 172 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:24,540 Brown Brothers Harriman IBM Lockheed 173 00:07:29,780 --> 00:07:27,210 Martin the RAND Corporation IG Farben 174 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:29,790 and more but it starts with the Thule 175 00:07:34,610 --> 00:07:32,490 Society where you write the historic 176 00:07:36,860 --> 00:07:34,620 roots of the first secret space program 177 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:36,870 and its genesis can be traced back to 178 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:38,730 the early years of the where Mar 179 00:07:42,380 --> 00:07:40,770 Republic at the end of the first world 180 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:42,390 war in 1919 181 00:07:46,790 --> 00:07:44,490 a number of German secret societies 182 00:07:49,220 --> 00:07:46,800 began collaborating in the development 183 00:07:51,410 --> 00:07:49,230 of flying saucer prototypes based on the 184 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:51,420 designs received through the telepathic 185 00:07:55,700 --> 00:07:53,850 communications of an unusually beautiful 186 00:07:58,640 --> 00:07:55,710 and highly skilled psychic medium-- 187 00:08:01,580 --> 00:07:58,650 maria orsic and i think that is a great 188 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:01,590 place to start this too so we know a 189 00:08:05,540 --> 00:08:03,690 little bit about German occultism in 190 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:05,550 this audience but talk to us about this 191 00:08:13,250 --> 00:08:09,290 origin point for UFO technology in 1919 192 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:13,260 yes Maria och in the full society it's a 193 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:15,930 very interesting development there for 194 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:18,450 the Germans just after the end of the 195 00:08:23,590 --> 00:08:21,330 first world war Germany is regrouping 196 00:08:26,570 --> 00:08:23,600 and there's a lot of interest in these 197 00:08:29,750 --> 00:08:26,580 secret societies that talk about the 198 00:08:31,460 --> 00:08:29,760 past grandeur of the Aryan race tens of 199 00:08:34,070 --> 00:08:31,470 thousands of years ago and the Thule 200 00:08:36,250 --> 00:08:34,080 society is probably the most popular and 201 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:36,260 well-known of these secret societies and 202 00:08:43,610 --> 00:08:40,370 they are organized around the idea that 203 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:43,620 there was once this ancient Aryan 204 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:46,170 civilization called the Hyperborean and 205 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:48,810 that their capital was Ultima Thule 206 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:50,130 and so that's where you get the name 207 00:08:55,790 --> 00:08:53,370 full society and Maria or such was a 208 00:08:58,580 --> 00:08:55,800 very talented psychic and they 209 00:09:01,790 --> 00:08:58,590 recognized her as having this ability to 210 00:09:05,450 --> 00:09:01,800 communicate not only with these inner 211 00:09:07,730 --> 00:09:05,460 earth beings the hyperborean but also 212 00:09:10,430 --> 00:09:07,740 with these offworld extraterrestrial 213 00:09:13,220 --> 00:09:10,440 species and so this is where in the 214 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:13,230 early 1920s maria orsic starts getting 215 00:09:18,050 --> 00:09:15,810 this psychic information and she does 216 00:09:21,500 --> 00:09:18,060 some automatic writing and it's in 217 00:09:24,680 --> 00:09:21,510 ancient Sumerian and the German scholars 218 00:09:28,100 --> 00:09:24,690 decipher it and it's the basic blueprint 219 00:09:30,260 --> 00:09:28,110 for building space-time device and so 220 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:30,270 that's the beginning of the German space 221 00:09:34,940 --> 00:09:32,610 program in the Weimar Republic and it 222 00:09:37,460 --> 00:09:34,950 really began with these secret societies 223 00:09:40,100 --> 00:09:37,470 like the full society maria orsic 224 00:09:42,050 --> 00:09:40,110 getting this psychic information from of 225 00:09:45,470 --> 00:09:42,060 all beings and also from inner world 226 00:09:47,290 --> 00:09:45,480 beings who were giving them hints on how 227 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:47,300 to develop this technology and 228 00:09:53,690 --> 00:09:50,610 eventually are about a decade of secret 229 00:09:55,670 --> 00:09:53,700 laboratory research and development they 230 00:09:58,970 --> 00:09:55,680 came up with the first prototype which 231 00:10:02,360 --> 00:09:58,980 is called the real craft and that pretty 232 00:10:05,150 --> 00:10:02,370 much coincided with Adolf Hitler coming 233 00:10:07,250 --> 00:10:05,160 to power and in Hitler this is another 234 00:10:09,829 --> 00:10:07,260 thing to keep in mind was a protege of 235 00:10:13,220 --> 00:10:09,839 the full society as well so the full 236 00:10:16,190 --> 00:10:13,230 society not only sponsored and helped 237 00:10:18,890 --> 00:10:16,200 Maria or searching her research and 238 00:10:22,100 --> 00:10:18,900 development of secret space technologies 239 00:10:24,590 --> 00:10:22,110 but also helped Adolf Hitler in his rise 240 00:10:26,829 --> 00:10:24,600 to power they funded him they provided 241 00:10:29,690 --> 00:10:26,839 him the main newspaper they provided him 242 00:10:32,270 --> 00:10:29,700 high-level society contacts police 243 00:10:35,329 --> 00:10:32,280 protection Navy protection all of these 244 00:10:38,290 --> 00:10:35,339 things to help the Nazi Party take off 245 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:38,300 so the full society was ultimately 246 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:41,250 pulling the strings of Hitler and the 247 00:10:46,790 --> 00:10:43,650 Nazi Party and this was all happening 248 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:46,800 behind the scenes right I think it's 249 00:10:51,199 --> 00:10:49,170 fascinating history and so we have these 250 00:10:53,449 --> 00:10:51,209 German occultists that are channelling 251 00:10:56,060 --> 00:10:53,459 plans for UFOs they're working on these 252 00:10:58,130 --> 00:10:56,070 crafts through two world wars and I've 253 00:11:00,020 --> 00:10:58,140 never heard this but in your book you 254 00:11:02,700 --> 00:11:00,030 say that when Hitler outlawed secret 255 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:02,710 societies the Royal Society registered 256 00:11:08,790 --> 00:11:05,170 as a corporation that translates to 257 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:08,800 Brill propulsion workshops that's really 258 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:11,770 fascinating is that right that's right 259 00:11:16,350 --> 00:11:14,290 yes that's one of the things that has 260 00:11:19,560 --> 00:11:16,360 come through the records what's being 261 00:11:22,380 --> 00:11:19,570 preserved of Moorea or such that there 262 00:11:26,220 --> 00:11:22,390 was that change so that she could 263 00:11:29,310 --> 00:11:26,230 conform with these new regulations but 264 00:11:31,980 --> 00:11:29,320 the work that she was doing it was 265 00:11:34,890 --> 00:11:31,990 really kind of indispensable for what 266 00:11:37,380 --> 00:11:34,900 was happening in Antarctica because she 267 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:37,390 was a highly gifted psychic and she was 268 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:39,730 in communication with extraterrestrials 269 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:42,730 or at least that's what the german 270 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:45,250 occultists believed and certainly that's 271 00:11:50,690 --> 00:11:48,010 what the Nazi SS believed because they 272 00:11:53,490 --> 00:11:50,700 were trying to piggyback on the 273 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:53,500 information or seach was getting from 274 00:11:59,490 --> 00:11:56,050 her extraterrestrial contacts and build 275 00:12:03,000 --> 00:11:59,500 a weaponized flying saucer program for 276 00:12:05,460 --> 00:12:03,010 the Nazi SS says she changed her real 277 00:12:08,220 --> 00:12:05,470 society name to something much more 278 00:12:10,410 --> 00:12:08,230 scientific because ultimately she felt 279 00:12:13,950 --> 00:12:10,420 that there was no real dividing line 280 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:13,960 between the occult and science and 281 00:12:19,550 --> 00:12:17,050 that's really why the Germans got ahead 282 00:12:22,890 --> 00:12:19,560 so quickly and this is well documented 283 00:12:25,350 --> 00:12:22,900 many US military officials were really 284 00:12:29,190 --> 00:12:25,360 puzzled you know how come the Germans in 285 00:12:31,620 --> 00:12:29,200 less than 20 years got ahead of the 286 00:12:34,680 --> 00:12:31,630 Allied powers in aerospace programs 287 00:12:36,420 --> 00:12:34,690 given that they lost the first world war 288 00:12:39,810 --> 00:12:36,430 how could that have happened well the 289 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:39,820 answer is that the Germans after the 290 00:12:44,580 --> 00:12:40,930 first world war 291 00:12:46,380 --> 00:12:44,590 blended occult studies with scientific 292 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:46,390 research and that's why they got ahead 293 00:12:50,370 --> 00:12:48,130 so quickly because they didn't 294 00:12:52,110 --> 00:12:50,380 differentiate whereas Western scientists 295 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:52,120 did so they progressed in a very 296 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:55,090 predictable linear Newtonian physics way 297 00:12:59,640 --> 00:12:57,130 with a little bit Hannam physics thrown 298 00:13:01,860 --> 00:12:59,650 in a very linear development where's the 299 00:13:04,110 --> 00:13:01,870 German space program and German 300 00:13:06,030 --> 00:13:04,120 scientists had this quantum leap because 301 00:13:08,430 --> 00:13:06,040 they were factoring consciousness into 302 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:08,440 everything they were doing 303 00:13:13,980 --> 00:13:11,529 yes I think it's more obvious now than 304 00:13:16,110 --> 00:13:13,990 ever that that dividing line is pretty 305 00:13:19,590 --> 00:13:16,120 much non-existent and they were probably 306 00:13:21,420 --> 00:13:19,600 right to get onto that so early and so 307 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:21,430 what more can you tell us about maybe 308 00:13:26,100 --> 00:13:23,610 the players involved in the stages of 309 00:13:28,290 --> 00:13:26,110 anti-gravity crafts made during those 310 00:13:30,509 --> 00:13:28,300 years from 1919 all the way up through 311 00:13:33,150 --> 00:13:30,519 the 1940s because there were several 312 00:13:36,329 --> 00:13:33,160 phases and models correct I mean this 313 00:13:39,090 --> 00:13:36,339 isn't a small thing that's right there 314 00:13:42,210 --> 00:13:39,100 were some really important scientists 315 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:42,220 involved in this program probably the 316 00:13:49,199 --> 00:13:45,490 most important was Professor Winifred 317 00:13:51,629 --> 00:13:49,209 Schumann who was the head of the electro 318 00:13:54,809 --> 00:13:51,639 physics laboratory at the University of 319 00:13:56,879 --> 00:13:54,819 Munich and he was a full society member 320 00:14:00,119 --> 00:13:56,889 and he was the one that actually helped 321 00:14:02,550 --> 00:14:00,129 build the prototypes according to the 322 00:14:04,139 --> 00:14:02,560 blueprints that horse each had developed 323 00:14:08,009 --> 00:14:04,149 so he was working very closely with 324 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:08,019 osich and he was an expert in high 325 00:14:14,759 --> 00:14:11,410 voltage electrostatics and also in 326 00:14:16,259 --> 00:14:14,769 high-energy plasma physics so these were 327 00:14:18,689 --> 00:14:16,269 the things that were necessary for 328 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:18,699 building any gravity craft and also 329 00:14:24,059 --> 00:14:21,490 utilizing some of the ideas of torsion 330 00:14:27,499 --> 00:14:24,069 field physics which does bend space-time 331 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:27,509 this is a physics that is still not 332 00:14:32,460 --> 00:14:30,490 mainstream but what Schumann and other 333 00:14:36,210 --> 00:14:32,470 scientists found was that when you 334 00:14:37,949 --> 00:14:36,220 rotate plasma which is greatly 335 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:37,959 pressurized and rotates at a high 336 00:14:43,350 --> 00:14:40,810 temperature vacuum environment it 337 00:14:45,870 --> 00:14:43,360 creates a spacetime effect so you can 338 00:14:48,420 --> 00:14:45,880 actually bend space-time and so this is 339 00:14:50,610 --> 00:14:48,430 the principle for the propulsion systems 340 00:14:53,610 --> 00:14:50,620 that were developed for the German 341 00:14:56,819 --> 00:14:53,620 flying saucer programs another prominent 342 00:14:57,540 --> 00:14:56,829 german scientist or inventor was Hans 343 00:15:01,110 --> 00:14:57,550 Koehler 344 00:15:04,379 --> 00:15:01,120 he came up with the free energy device 345 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:04,389 that was adopted by the German Navy for 346 00:15:10,139 --> 00:15:06,370 their submarines and also for this 347 00:15:13,530 --> 00:15:10,149 spacecraft so this was a very important 348 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:13,540 means of generating free energy so free 349 00:15:19,559 --> 00:15:15,970 energy was something that Western 350 00:15:22,079 --> 00:15:19,569 scientists had also been discussing of 351 00:15:24,420 --> 00:15:22,089 course you had nikola tesla 352 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:24,430 nearing a lot of free energy research in 353 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:27,610 the early 1900's he incidentally was 354 00:15:33,749 --> 00:15:30,730 friends with maria orsic because nikola 355 00:15:36,269 --> 00:15:33,759 tesla and maria orsic his father were 356 00:15:38,519 --> 00:15:36,279 both Croatian engineers from the same 357 00:15:40,170 --> 00:15:38,529 generation so they knew each other so 358 00:15:42,210 --> 00:15:40,180 the or siege family were friends with 359 00:15:44,610 --> 00:15:42,220 Nikola Tesla so they shared a lot of 360 00:15:46,679 --> 00:15:44,620 information and Tesla is a lot of 361 00:15:48,569 --> 00:15:46,689 history to him when it comes to 362 00:15:51,629 --> 00:15:48,579 communications with extraterrestrials 363 00:15:54,329 --> 00:15:51,639 but Tesla was involved Thomas Townsend 364 00:15:58,049 --> 00:15:54,339 Brown was also a brilliant scientist he 365 00:16:00,379 --> 00:15:58,059 developed the electro gravity he had the 366 00:16:04,319 --> 00:16:00,389 first patent in England on 367 00:16:06,540 --> 00:16:04,329 electrogravitics it was 1928 so you had 368 00:16:08,910 --> 00:16:06,550 a bunch of these German scientists and 369 00:16:11,220 --> 00:16:08,920 Western scientists coming up with these 370 00:16:13,710 --> 00:16:11,230 ideas of electro gravity explosion field 371 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:13,720 physics free energy devices and all of 372 00:16:18,989 --> 00:16:15,370 this was essential for building these 373 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:18,999 flying saucer devices hmm yes man it is 374 00:16:23,970 --> 00:16:21,490 so fascinating and it sounds like a lot 375 00:16:26,309 --> 00:16:23,980 of information to just dismiss or deny 376 00:16:28,829 --> 00:16:26,319 there seems to be a lot there if you 377 00:16:31,019 --> 00:16:28,839 pull on every thread and what about the 378 00:16:32,850 --> 00:16:31,029 Nazis antarctic retreat this has been 379 00:16:34,619 --> 00:16:32,860 debated quite a lot I've had several 380 00:16:37,230 --> 00:16:34,629 guests who just don't see the evidence 381 00:16:38,850 --> 00:16:37,240 for it I think your book makes a strong 382 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:38,860 case but what do you consider the most 383 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:41,290 convincing evidence that lays this issue 384 00:16:45,030 --> 00:16:42,850 to rest where we can say yes 385 00:16:46,799 --> 00:16:45,040 definitively the Nazis did make a base 386 00:16:49,049 --> 00:16:46,809 in Antarctica where they continued their 387 00:16:51,869 --> 00:16:49,059 work on UFO technology and free energy 388 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:51,879 devices well probably the most 389 00:16:57,509 --> 00:16:54,730 persuasive evidence is of course we know 390 00:16:59,730 --> 00:16:57,519 that I'm the captain I'll predict oh the 391 00:17:04,019 --> 00:16:59,740 Germans had an expedition to Antarctica 392 00:17:08,399 --> 00:17:04,029 in 1938 39 but what is not well-known is 393 00:17:12,449 --> 00:17:08,409 that in June of 1939 President Roosevelt 394 00:17:16,409 --> 00:17:12,459 issued an executive orders Paul Admiral 395 00:17:19,380 --> 00:17:16,419 Byrd to go down to Antarctica and find 396 00:17:21,779 --> 00:17:19,390 the Nazi bases down there locate where 397 00:17:24,149 --> 00:17:21,789 they had been built and determined 398 00:17:27,659 --> 00:17:24,159 whether or not they had been violating 399 00:17:29,850 --> 00:17:27,669 the Monroe Doctrine so Roosevelt in 1939 400 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:29,860 knew that the Germans had established 401 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:32,530 bases in Antarctica and had given 402 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:35,530 instructions for Byrd who was the 403 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:36,090 leading 404 00:17:42,590 --> 00:17:38,010 u.s. polar explorer to lead an 405 00:17:44,269 --> 00:17:42,600 expedition for the 1939-1940 season to 406 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:44,279 down to Antarctica to find where the 407 00:17:50,269 --> 00:17:47,010 Germans had built their base and so this 408 00:17:52,669 --> 00:17:50,279 is pretty incontrovertible that the 409 00:17:55,399 --> 00:17:52,679 United States knew in 1930 that the 410 00:17:58,299 --> 00:17:55,409 Germans had built bases in Antarctica 411 00:18:00,919 --> 00:17:58,309 and then you have a whole number of 412 00:18:03,140 --> 00:18:00,929 whistleblowers former insiders that talk 413 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:03,150 about the Germans having built bases 414 00:18:07,850 --> 00:18:06,210 down there but you actually have stories 415 00:18:12,220 --> 00:18:07,860 in the New York Times and other Maine 416 00:18:15,350 --> 00:18:12,230 just tabloids in the United States 417 00:18:17,539 --> 00:18:15,360 discussing Admiral Byrd's expedition to 418 00:18:20,450 --> 00:18:17,549 Antarctica and I referenced that in the 419 00:18:22,850 --> 00:18:20,460 book so it's a fact that the Americans 420 00:18:26,029 --> 00:18:22,860 were looking for the German bases in 421 00:18:28,430 --> 00:18:26,039 1939 and then we have people who have 422 00:18:30,830 --> 00:18:28,440 talked at length about how the Germans 423 00:18:33,500 --> 00:18:30,840 found the bases who helped them find the 424 00:18:36,019 --> 00:18:33,510 bases what were built down there and the 425 00:18:38,779 --> 00:18:36,029 equipment and the resources and the 426 00:18:41,090 --> 00:18:38,789 scientists that went down there right I 427 00:18:44,029 --> 00:18:41,100 mean for this to have happened the 428 00:18:45,889 --> 00:18:44,039 Germans would have had to send just 429 00:18:48,620 --> 00:18:45,899 massive convoys and 430 00:18:51,350 --> 00:18:48,630 made huge supply trips and built out a 431 00:18:54,110 --> 00:18:51,360 pretty huge infrastructure down there 432 00:18:55,940 --> 00:18:54,120 and you know according to your book it 433 00:18:58,870 --> 00:18:55,950 does seem like there's plenty of 434 00:19:02,299 --> 00:18:58,880 documentation plenty of comments made by 435 00:19:05,230 --> 00:19:02,309 prominent Nazis to indicate that that's 436 00:19:08,360 --> 00:19:05,240 true I just wonder why it is so hard for 437 00:19:10,940 --> 00:19:08,370 World War two historians to pick up on 438 00:19:14,360 --> 00:19:10,950 those threads but I think a lot of 439 00:19:18,230 --> 00:19:14,370 people just don't appreciate how well 440 00:19:21,430 --> 00:19:18,240 the Nazis were able to hide the movement 441 00:19:24,950 --> 00:19:21,440 of large numbers of people and resources 442 00:19:27,019 --> 00:19:24,960 secretly it's well documented that the 443 00:19:30,380 --> 00:19:27,029 Nazis developed these huge underground 444 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:30,390 facilities in occupied Europe lured 445 00:19:35,570 --> 00:19:33,090 Heusen in the Harz mountains is probably 446 00:19:38,539 --> 00:19:35,580 one of the best known and that's where 447 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:38,549 they basically took the v1 v2 rocket 448 00:19:44,090 --> 00:19:40,890 program after the pen and mundi 449 00:19:47,570 --> 00:19:44,100 facilities had been bombed on the Baltic 450 00:19:50,230 --> 00:19:47,580 Sea coast line there and so the Nazis 451 00:19:53,770 --> 00:19:50,240 during 1942 452 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:53,780 realize that the war was going to be a 453 00:19:58,090 --> 00:19:56,330 long one and they made preparations to 454 00:20:00,790 --> 00:19:58,100 move everything underground and so they 455 00:20:02,830 --> 00:20:00,800 commissioned their scientific 456 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:02,840 institutions to start mapping all the 457 00:20:08,350 --> 00:20:06,410 underground cabins in Germany in order 458 00:20:10,419 --> 00:20:08,360 to start building vast facilities down 459 00:20:14,799 --> 00:20:10,429 there and at the same time the German 460 00:20:19,450 --> 00:20:14,809 Navy began to accelerate the transports 461 00:20:21,910 --> 00:20:19,460 of men and women and resources down to 462 00:20:24,669 --> 00:20:21,920 Antarctica because the war was starting 463 00:20:26,380 --> 00:20:24,679 to go badly for them and as the war 464 00:20:28,870 --> 00:20:26,390 continued to go badly while the Nazis 465 00:20:31,540 --> 00:20:28,880 just continued to accelerate the 466 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:31,550 movement of supplies and this was all 467 00:20:38,830 --> 00:20:34,970 done secretly through their submarine 468 00:20:41,799 --> 00:20:38,840 fleets through their very large younger 469 00:20:44,169 --> 00:20:41,809 planes and also through these 470 00:20:47,230 --> 00:20:44,179 underground cavern systems they're 471 00:20:50,470 --> 00:20:47,240 penetrated Europe and even going into 472 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:50,480 Africa and further than that so that's 473 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:52,490 one of the mysteries is exactly how 474 00:20:58,600 --> 00:20:55,730 extensive are these underground cavern 475 00:21:01,720 --> 00:20:58,610 systems not only in Antarctica but also 476 00:21:04,150 --> 00:21:01,730 in Europe and Africa and are they linked 477 00:21:05,980 --> 00:21:04,160 according to William Tompkins and I 478 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:05,990 discussed this in the book I haven't 479 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:08,210 been able to confirm it he says that the 480 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:11,090 cavern systems ran all the way from 481 00:21:17,290 --> 00:21:15,530 Antarctica up through Africa and right 482 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:17,300 up into Europe which is a phenomenal 483 00:21:21,580 --> 00:21:19,610 thing to say but you know he said that 484 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:21,590 this was something that u.s. may be 485 00:21:25,810 --> 00:21:23,690 spies learned about during the 486 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:25,820 infiltration of the German aerospace 487 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:27,770 industry and so this was another way in 488 00:21:32,470 --> 00:21:29,450 which the Germans were able to secretly 489 00:21:35,220 --> 00:21:32,480 move supplies and people all the way 490 00:21:37,900 --> 00:21:35,230 from occupied Europe down to Antarctica 491 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:37,910 right huge can of worms and those 492 00:21:42,460 --> 00:21:40,010 tunnels are everywhere it's hard to know 493 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:42,470 if they truly connect but I mean it's 494 00:21:47,049 --> 00:21:45,050 hard to also find a piece of land on 495 00:21:50,110 --> 00:21:47,059 this planet that doesn't have huge 496 00:21:52,570 --> 00:21:50,120 natural or unnatural cavern systems 497 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:52,580 below it so it is a curious thing when 498 00:21:57,820 --> 00:21:54,530 you consider what the hell was going on 499 00:21:59,919 --> 00:21:57,830 in the past well this is one of the 500 00:22:03,190 --> 00:21:59,929 things that people will start learning 501 00:22:04,180 --> 00:22:03,200 about Richard sorda dr. richard sorter 502 00:22:05,860 --> 00:22:04,190 he's written a cup 503 00:22:08,110 --> 00:22:05,870 the books talking about underground 504 00:22:10,659 --> 00:22:08,120 bases in the United States and worldwide 505 00:22:12,759 --> 00:22:10,669 and he identifies these bases is 506 00:22:15,580 --> 00:22:12,769 basically being linked by these vast 507 00:22:18,970 --> 00:22:15,590 kind of tunnel systems where you can 508 00:22:22,090 --> 00:22:18,980 actually have maglev trains that can 509 00:22:23,409 --> 00:22:22,100 move that supersonic speeds not only in 510 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:23,419 the United States but around the globe 511 00:22:29,820 --> 00:22:26,690 so right there you have someone who by 512 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:29,830 studying declassified documents has 513 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:32,570 understood that this is a worldwide 514 00:22:38,019 --> 00:22:34,610 tunnel network without we're talking 515 00:22:41,019 --> 00:22:38,029 about where you can move people and 516 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:41,029 resources very quickly using this tunnel 517 00:22:46,419 --> 00:22:44,090 network with the hypersonic train system 518 00:22:48,430 --> 00:22:46,429 so this is one of the things that I 519 00:22:50,860 --> 00:22:48,440 think makes possible what Bill Tonkin 520 00:22:53,499 --> 00:22:50,870 said that in fact the Germans had 521 00:22:56,799 --> 00:22:53,509 stumbled on these underground cavern 522 00:22:58,629 --> 00:22:56,809 systems all the way from Europe down to 523 00:23:00,970 --> 00:22:58,639 Antarctica itself which is a phenomenal 524 00:23:03,580 --> 00:23:00,980 thing to say but even without that even 525 00:23:06,100 --> 00:23:03,590 without these alleged tunnel systems 526 00:23:08,369 --> 00:23:06,110 from Europe to Antarctica you still had 527 00:23:11,649 --> 00:23:08,379 the German submarines that could travel 528 00:23:15,399 --> 00:23:11,659 secretly and transport people and 529 00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:15,409 supplies from occupied Europe right down 530 00:23:21,580 --> 00:23:19,370 to Antarctica mm-hmm yeah seems like 531 00:23:24,490 --> 00:23:21,590 maybe they rediscovered some ancient 532 00:23:26,379 --> 00:23:24,500 systems and just repurpose them and so 533 00:23:28,090 --> 00:23:26,389 one also kind of fast forward up to 534 00:23:30,100 --> 00:23:28,100 today because a lot of people are 535 00:23:32,950 --> 00:23:30,110 curious about what's going on there now 536 00:23:35,049 --> 00:23:32,960 we've had several major people making 537 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:35,059 trips down there we had that Fitbit 538 00:23:39,399 --> 00:23:37,610 release of that heat map and where their 539 00:23:41,019 --> 00:23:39,409 devices are being used and a lot of them 540 00:23:43,060 --> 00:23:41,029 showed up in Antarctica two people 541 00:23:47,110 --> 00:23:43,070 surprised maybe the best thing to do 542 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:47,120 would be to give people the context of 543 00:23:51,879 --> 00:23:49,490 Charles hapgoods work and earth crust 544 00:23:54,149 --> 00:23:51,889 displacement theory so that the findings 545 00:23:57,399 --> 00:23:54,159 down there make a little bit more sense 546 00:24:00,460 --> 00:23:57,409 okay well how could basically his 547 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:00,470 argument was that the geophysical poles 548 00:24:08,139 --> 00:24:05,330 shift periodically and that the ship 549 00:24:11,529 --> 00:24:08,149 means that what is now the South Pole 550 00:24:15,190 --> 00:24:11,539 over the entire continent at another 551 00:24:17,860 --> 00:24:15,200 time could have been just in open ocean 552 00:24:20,650 --> 00:24:17,870 and the landmass of Antarctica could 553 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:20,660 being in a temperate zone and so that is 554 00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:22,970 pretty consistent with what we know of 555 00:24:28,630 --> 00:24:25,370 the ancient sea kings are Charles 556 00:24:32,020 --> 00:24:28,640 Hapgood was able to analyze the Perry 557 00:24:34,930 --> 00:24:32,030 race maps the Arantes Phineas maps which 558 00:24:36,670 --> 00:24:34,940 were 16th century maps that showed 559 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:36,680 Antarctica being ice-free 560 00:24:41,650 --> 00:24:38,530 which indicated that at one point 561 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:41,660 probably before the last great flood 562 00:24:47,910 --> 00:24:44,770 that happened 12,000 years or so ago 563 00:24:51,910 --> 00:24:47,920 Antarctica was in a temperate zone of 564 00:24:54,430 --> 00:24:51,920 the Pacific and so that meant that the 565 00:24:59,260 --> 00:24:54,440 great flood that occurred 12,000 years 566 00:25:01,870 --> 00:24:59,270 ago coincided with a pole shift and so 567 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:01,880 this is where we get into the scientific 568 00:25:07,510 --> 00:25:04,610 debate about North America being covered 569 00:25:09,190 --> 00:25:07,520 by ice sheets and then about prop years 570 00:25:10,750 --> 00:25:09,200 and years ago the ice sheets suddenly 571 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:10,760 melt and that's what caused the great 572 00:25:16,210 --> 00:25:13,690 flood which inundated so many different 573 00:25:18,750 --> 00:25:16,220 civilizations around the planet and so 574 00:25:23,650 --> 00:25:18,760 this was something that led to 575 00:25:26,410 --> 00:25:23,660 Antarctica being moved from its ice free 576 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:26,420 location to the South Pole and being 577 00:25:32,140 --> 00:25:30,170 very quickly covered by ice now hapgoods 578 00:25:37,740 --> 00:25:32,150 theory was endorsed by Albert Einstein 579 00:25:42,070 --> 00:25:37,750 and Einstein pointed out that the key 580 00:25:45,340 --> 00:25:42,080 scientific variable here that determines 581 00:25:47,980 --> 00:25:45,350 when a pole shift occurs is the amount 582 00:25:50,590 --> 00:25:47,990 of ice at the North and South Poles that 583 00:25:53,590 --> 00:25:50,600 as ice accumulates they're either the 584 00:25:56,620 --> 00:25:53,600 North or the South Pole then you have 585 00:26:00,850 --> 00:25:56,630 the ingredient for a pole shift 586 00:26:03,970 --> 00:26:00,860 occurring so by the same token if a lot 587 00:26:06,610 --> 00:26:03,980 of ice melts at the poles then you can 588 00:26:08,830 --> 00:26:06,620 have a pole shift occurring again so 589 00:26:12,340 --> 00:26:08,840 this is what makes what's happening 590 00:26:14,860 --> 00:26:12,350 today at the South Pole and Antarctica 591 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:14,870 very very important to everyone to pay 592 00:26:20,610 --> 00:26:17,690 attention to because with the ice 593 00:26:23,110 --> 00:26:20,620 melting primarily in the West Antarctic 594 00:26:26,380 --> 00:26:23,120 because of the increased volcanic 595 00:26:28,300 --> 00:26:26,390 activity down there the volcanoes under 596 00:26:30,070 --> 00:26:28,310 the ice sheets are being triggered and 597 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:30,080 it's been discovered it's been confirmed 598 00:26:34,580 --> 00:26:32,050 recently that Antarctic 599 00:26:38,070 --> 00:26:34,590 actually has the world's largest 600 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:38,080 volcanic feel that wasn't known before 601 00:26:43,230 --> 00:26:41,530 only last year was a confirmed that all 602 00:26:44,910 --> 00:26:43,240 of these volcanoes have been discovered 603 00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:44,920 and they are they're being triggered so 604 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:46,480 the ice sheets from underneath are 605 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:50,170 melting so the ice in Antarctica is 606 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:53,290 slowly disappearing and that affects the 607 00:26:58,470 --> 00:26:55,570 weight distribution in Antarctica so not 608 00:27:00,720 --> 00:26:58,480 only with the ice disappearing can you 609 00:27:03,090 --> 00:27:00,730 have things being exposed you have 610 00:27:05,580 --> 00:27:03,100 ancient artifacts being exposed you have 611 00:27:07,830 --> 00:27:05,590 suddenly fresh flows and cities being 612 00:27:10,350 --> 00:27:07,840 exposed being discovered you have 613 00:27:14,550 --> 00:27:10,360 extraterrestrial craft being discovered 614 00:27:17,850 --> 00:27:14,560 but also you have the ice distribution 615 00:27:20,190 --> 00:27:17,860 in Antarctica being skewed tremendously 616 00:27:24,060 --> 00:27:20,200 because while West Antarctica is melting 617 00:27:26,820 --> 00:27:24,070 East Antarctica is not melting its 618 00:27:30,410 --> 00:27:26,830 remaining the same so this is setting 619 00:27:32,610 --> 00:27:30,420 off a pretty powerful geological 620 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:32,620 phenomenon where you could actually have 621 00:27:39,150 --> 00:27:35,290 the weight displacement in the South 622 00:27:41,550 --> 00:27:39,160 Pole triggering propulsion hmm it is a 623 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:41,560 lot but we have so many mysteries about 624 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:43,450 floods and ice sheets and massive 625 00:27:47,790 --> 00:27:45,730 changes in the past that a lot of people 626 00:27:49,980 --> 00:27:47,800 are trying to work out and this theory 627 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:49,990 does answer a lot of those questions as 628 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:52,210 you described so it is really 629 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:54,490 interesting but you also mentioned 630 00:27:57,780 --> 00:27:55,450 flash-frozen 631 00:27:59,550 --> 00:27:57,790 cities or civilizations and we got to 632 00:28:02,250 --> 00:27:59,560 hit that because I guess it would be 633 00:28:04,500 --> 00:28:02,260 this lake vostok anomaly that really 634 00:28:08,070 --> 00:28:04,510 started to heat things up in 2000 and 635 00:28:10,230 --> 00:28:08,080 2001 people noticed this anomaly and I 636 00:28:13,210 --> 00:28:10,240 guess talked to us about the lake vostok 637 00:28:16,390 --> 00:28:13,220 area and what this was 638 00:28:20,230 --> 00:28:16,400 okay so lake vostok is the deepest fresh 639 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:20,240 ocean lake in antarctica and around 1990 640 00:28:24,970 --> 00:28:23,210 scientists discovered that the lake was 641 00:28:28,150 --> 00:28:24,980 there and they also discovered this 642 00:28:30,430 --> 00:28:28,160 giant anomaly at one side of the lake 643 00:28:33,340 --> 00:28:30,440 which was about 50 miles in diameter and 644 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:33,350 it displayed the characteristics of a 645 00:28:38,530 --> 00:28:36,050 location with a lot of metal kind of 646 00:28:40,750 --> 00:28:38,540 like metals that would be found in a 647 00:28:42,580 --> 00:28:40,760 city so that's when people started to 648 00:28:44,950 --> 00:28:42,590 speculate and there was a lot of rumors 649 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:44,960 about them having discovered a city in 650 00:28:49,570 --> 00:28:45,890 Antarctica 651 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:49,580 fast forward to around 2001 2002 the 652 00:28:54,460 --> 00:28:51,890 Raytheon corporation now has the 653 00:28:56,290 --> 00:28:54,470 Antarctic contract with the National 654 00:29:00,280 --> 00:28:56,300 Science Foundation and they're sending 655 00:29:02,980 --> 00:29:00,290 teams of people down to this frozen city 656 00:29:05,050 --> 00:29:02,990 or this magnetic anomaly in Antarctica 657 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:05,060 and the scientists or the teams that 658 00:29:10,150 --> 00:29:06,650 have been sent down there are getting 659 00:29:12,550 --> 00:29:10,160 sick and rumors start emerge of a 660 00:29:16,090 --> 00:29:12,560 flash-frozen civilization having been 661 00:29:18,970 --> 00:29:16,100 found with advanced technologies and so 662 00:29:23,140 --> 00:29:18,980 you have these rumors starting and then 663 00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:23,150 you have some insiders talking about the 664 00:29:29,950 --> 00:29:27,110 excavations of the ancient civilization 665 00:29:32,140 --> 00:29:29,960 down there Lake Vostok is one of these 666 00:29:36,010 --> 00:29:32,150 locations there's probably multiple 667 00:29:39,250 --> 00:29:36,020 locations just as United States has a 668 00:29:42,460 --> 00:29:39,260 number of cities that are all part of 669 00:29:45,250 --> 00:29:42,470 the United States simile Antarctica 670 00:29:47,190 --> 00:29:45,260 prior to it being flash-frozen had a 671 00:29:50,110 --> 00:29:47,200 number of cities a number of settlements 672 00:29:52,660 --> 00:29:50,120 sure you had your capital but then you 673 00:29:55,540 --> 00:29:52,670 had other major settlements around the 674 00:29:57,670 --> 00:29:55,550 Antarctic continent which is vast and so 675 00:30:00,870 --> 00:29:57,680 this is what's being discovered now so 676 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:00,880 is probably multiple cities or 677 00:30:06,220 --> 00:30:03,410 settlements or ruins that have been 678 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:06,230 found throughout the landmass and Lake 679 00:30:12,460 --> 00:30:10,490 Vostok is one of those hmm so let's 680 00:30:13,860 --> 00:30:12,470 touch on your expertise here for a 681 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:13,870 minute but when you factor in 682 00:30:20,110 --> 00:30:17,330 geopolitics today what does this last 683 00:30:23,950 --> 00:30:20,120 election have to do with what's been 684 00:30:27,220 --> 00:30:23,960 found down there well Donald Trump he is 685 00:30:29,919 --> 00:30:27,230 a very interesting person because 686 00:30:32,350 --> 00:30:29,929 according to a number of sources that 687 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:32,360 I've been studying and I think are very 688 00:30:39,820 --> 00:30:36,530 credible Trump was chosen by the US 689 00:30:43,450 --> 00:30:39,830 military to run as a kind of figurehead 690 00:30:45,549 --> 00:30:43,460 so that the military could do things 691 00:30:48,490 --> 00:30:45,559 behind the scenes to take down the deep 692 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:48,500 state whose agenda is something that the 693 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:51,850 US military very strenuously objects to 694 00:30:57,370 --> 00:30:54,530 Trump is a mouthpiece or a figurehead 695 00:31:03,039 --> 00:30:57,380 for the military to take down a deep 696 00:31:06,870 --> 00:31:03,049 state and we have seen many of trumps 697 00:31:10,539 --> 00:31:06,880 policies being targeted against 698 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:10,549 international practices that are part of 699 00:31:16,900 --> 00:31:12,770 habit each state operates for example in 700 00:31:20,710 --> 00:31:16,910 December 21 of 2017 Trump passed an 701 00:31:23,500 --> 00:31:20,720 executive order which basically targeted 702 00:31:26,140 --> 00:31:23,510 international human trafficking and 703 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:26,150 corruption and they said that this was a 704 00:31:30,340 --> 00:31:28,490 national emergency so this is really the 705 00:31:33,460 --> 00:31:30,350 first time that any American president 706 00:31:36,370 --> 00:31:33,470 has ever declared human rights happening 707 00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:36,380 around the world as constituting a 708 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:38,240 national emergency for the United States 709 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:41,090 why did he do that well the explanation 710 00:31:48,270 --> 00:31:44,570 is that this empowers the US military to 711 00:31:51,340 --> 00:31:48,280 operate under national emergency 712 00:31:53,409 --> 00:31:51,350 condition to basically send troops 713 00:31:55,539 --> 00:31:53,419 special operations forces around the 714 00:31:58,060 --> 00:31:55,549 world to begin arresting and detaining 715 00:32:01,630 --> 00:31:58,070 people and bringing them to the United 716 00:32:05,430 --> 00:32:01,640 States or to Guantanamo for debriefing 717 00:32:08,650 --> 00:32:05,440 or enhanced interrogation and so forth 718 00:32:12,159 --> 00:32:08,660 yeah I do get skeptical sometimes about 719 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:12,169 just the routine of every new president 720 00:32:16,810 --> 00:32:14,450 is gonna really help us out this time 721 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:16,820 but there are some things to note that 722 00:32:20,710 --> 00:32:18,530 are different and it is true that John 723 00:32:22,930 --> 00:32:20,720 Podesta and Hillary Clinton made some 724 00:32:25,450 --> 00:32:22,940 comments about UFOs and it seemed like 725 00:32:27,850 --> 00:32:25,460 maybe they had some kind of plan and 726 00:32:31,299 --> 00:32:27,860 that maybe there is a conflict related 727 00:32:34,090 --> 00:32:31,309 to this content and how to deliver it to 728 00:32:36,190 --> 00:32:34,100 people how to frame it and I guess I 729 00:32:39,310 --> 00:32:36,200 could entertain that possibility for 730 00:32:42,399 --> 00:32:39,320 sure right well this is one of the 731 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:42,409 things that hewn on movement has really 732 00:32:49,149 --> 00:32:45,530 been focusing on is this nexus between 733 00:32:51,340 --> 00:32:49,159 Trump and this u.s. military especially 734 00:32:54,370 --> 00:32:51,350 the intelligence community that white 735 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:54,380 hats that are feeding the Trump 736 00:32:59,110 --> 00:32:56,210 administration intelligence for how to 737 00:33:01,180 --> 00:32:59,120 take down the deeps tape and in leaking 738 00:33:04,539 --> 00:33:01,190 that information to the public through 739 00:33:07,780 --> 00:33:04,549 these anonymous drops on the 4chan and 740 00:33:09,970 --> 00:33:07,790 hñ posting boards and so there's been 741 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:09,980 quite a movement that is being built 742 00:33:14,860 --> 00:33:12,530 around cure on and so far I've found it 743 00:33:17,230 --> 00:33:14,870 to be very credible and giving a lot of 744 00:33:20,740 --> 00:33:17,240 very helpful information for how to 745 00:33:22,419 --> 00:33:20,750 understand this struggle between the 746 00:33:25,030 --> 00:33:22,429 Trump administration with the US 747 00:33:27,850 --> 00:33:25,040 military backing him quietly behind the 748 00:33:32,830 --> 00:33:27,860 scenes and the deep state and how they 749 00:33:35,260 --> 00:33:32,840 control the US media US Congress and the 750 00:33:37,630 --> 00:33:35,270 u.s. culture generally and of course 751 00:33:40,539 --> 00:33:37,640 internationally well it does seem like 752 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:40,549 there is an off-the-books physics secret 753 00:33:45,970 --> 00:33:43,370 sciences that they have quarantined away 754 00:33:48,940 --> 00:33:45,980 from the university system in the 755 00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:48,950 mainstream system and it's kind of 756 00:33:54,399 --> 00:33:51,110 interesting times right now because the 757 00:33:57,310 --> 00:33:54,409 u.s. is having a rough time economically 758 00:33:59,350 --> 00:33:57,320 it seems and it might be necessary to 759 00:34:01,600 --> 00:33:59,360 open up these technologies for a new 760 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:01,610 industrial revolution if the US doesn't 761 00:34:05,860 --> 00:34:03,530 want to lose its footing the economy 762 00:34:08,500 --> 00:34:05,870 doesn't have many other places left to 763 00:34:10,690 --> 00:34:08,510 go it seems like we've squeezed most of 764 00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:10,700 the juice out of this thing in this debt 765 00:34:15,940 --> 00:34:13,510 based system I think that's a compelling 766 00:34:18,010 --> 00:34:15,950 element to the possibility that maybe 767 00:34:18,730 --> 00:34:18,020 there is some change behind the scenes 768 00:34:22,240 --> 00:34:18,740 and maybe 769 00:34:23,859 --> 00:34:22,250 begrudgingly these technologies might 770 00:34:27,190 --> 00:34:23,869 get dragged out to the light just for 771 00:34:28,810 --> 00:34:27,200 the sake of people who have nationalist 772 00:34:30,790 --> 00:34:28,820 feelings or really do want to see 773 00:34:34,530 --> 00:34:30,800 America stay number one this might be 774 00:34:37,180 --> 00:34:34,540 the only way to keep the u.s. on top I 775 00:34:40,060 --> 00:34:37,190 agree I think so I mean basically the 776 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:40,070 deeps tape for anyone that's been paying 777 00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:44,450 attention is moving resources and moving 778 00:34:51,490 --> 00:34:48,169 a lot of its infrastructure and finances 779 00:34:54,190 --> 00:34:51,500 to China China is earmarked to be 780 00:34:57,970 --> 00:34:54,200 the next global superpower and the deep 781 00:35:00,310 --> 00:34:57,980 state is wanting to do this by 782 00:35:03,609 --> 00:35:00,320 undermining the US as the current 783 00:35:06,030 --> 00:35:03,619 superpower and a lot of the policies 784 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:06,040 that the deep State has been pursuing 785 00:35:13,839 --> 00:35:10,130 orienting China to supplant the US as 786 00:35:16,230 --> 00:35:13,849 the world's major financial hub and once 787 00:35:19,030 --> 00:35:16,240 the rug is pulled out of the US economy 788 00:35:21,250 --> 00:35:19,040 the US dollar will plunge and the US 789 00:35:25,030 --> 00:35:21,260 economy would collapse that was the deep 790 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:25,040 states plan but Trump has come in acting 791 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:27,530 on behalf of the US military and he has 792 00:35:32,109 --> 00:35:29,050 a different plan which is the 793 00:35:36,490 --> 00:35:32,119 reindustrialize America and make America 794 00:35:38,740 --> 00:35:36,500 a hub for this new technology technology 795 00:35:40,990 --> 00:35:38,750 that will take America or to take the 796 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:41,000 planet into the 22nd century into this 797 00:35:46,859 --> 00:35:44,570 kind of Star Trek like utopia where free 798 00:35:50,589 --> 00:35:46,869 energy devices torsion field physics 799 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:50,599 alternative healing devices the whole 800 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:54,410 way in which we view ourselves that that 801 00:35:58,810 --> 00:35:56,570 would be changed tremendously by these 802 00:36:01,150 --> 00:35:58,820 technologies being released and I think 803 00:36:02,829 --> 00:36:01,160 that's the plan and Trump wants the door 804 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:02,839 and he's got the full support of US 805 00:36:08,230 --> 00:36:05,210 military behind him and it will be done 806 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:08,240 to maintain America's superpower status 807 00:36:13,510 --> 00:36:10,490 for decades to come so I think that's 808 00:36:16,089 --> 00:36:13,520 the plan of the American patriots a 809 00:36:18,190 --> 00:36:16,099 nationalist community they don't want to 810 00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:18,200 see America thrown on the financial 811 00:36:22,870 --> 00:36:20,240 scrap heap just so that the deeps they 812 00:36:25,210 --> 00:36:22,880 can move everything over to China they 813 00:36:26,490 --> 00:36:25,220 want to maintain American power for 814 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:26,500 decades to come 815 00:36:32,530 --> 00:36:30,170 hmm it's a captivating possibility I am 816 00:36:34,990 --> 00:36:32,540 skeptical but I'm gonna wait and see 817 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:35,000 what happens let's hope for the best and 818 00:36:39,970 --> 00:36:37,690 to talk more about this flash-frozen 819 00:36:41,829 --> 00:36:39,980 civilization under the ice and who they 820 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:41,839 were and the book you call the 821 00:36:46,300 --> 00:36:44,050 civilization the pre-adamite saying 822 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:46,310 after arriving and what is now 823 00:36:50,890 --> 00:36:48,410 Antarctica approximately fifty five 824 00:36:52,810 --> 00:36:50,900 thousand years ago the pre-adamite found 825 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:52,820 a rich fertile planet with a large 826 00:36:56,470 --> 00:36:55,130 native population less technologically 827 00:36:59,079 --> 00:36:56,480 advanced than themselves 828 00:37:00,849 --> 00:36:59,089 soon after the pre-adamite decided to 829 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:00,859 create hybrid beings using their 830 00:37:05,260 --> 00:37:03,170 advanced genetic technology who would 831 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:05,270 act as intermediaries for them 832 00:37:09,340 --> 00:37:07,010 with the rest of the earth now that's 833 00:37:10,930 --> 00:37:09,350 interesting and it could make sense of 834 00:37:13,750 --> 00:37:10,940 not only a lot of mythologies and 835 00:37:16,060 --> 00:37:13,760 legends related to the gods or ancient 836 00:37:17,590 --> 00:37:16,070 wars in the sky but also the elongated 837 00:37:21,610 --> 00:37:17,600 skulls which aren't much of a secret 838 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:21,620 anymore either right right I think a lot 839 00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:23,330 of that information about the Prieta 840 00:37:29,020 --> 00:37:25,250 mites having a civilization down in 841 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:29,030 Antarctica that dovetails very much with 842 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:31,610 some ancient myths and in particular the 843 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:34,130 Book of Enoch they're actually three 844 00:37:39,130 --> 00:37:36,650 books of Enoch that are in circulation 845 00:37:41,020 --> 00:37:39,140 and essentially they describe this 846 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:41,030 phenomenon where before the last great 847 00:37:46,990 --> 00:37:43,970 flood you had this patriarchal figure 848 00:37:50,020 --> 00:37:47,000 Enoch having these experiences with the 849 00:37:51,670 --> 00:37:50,030 angels and being brought up to heaven 850 00:37:54,220 --> 00:37:51,680 and having these meetings with all of 851 00:37:57,370 --> 00:37:54,230 these different angels and eventually 852 00:37:59,350 --> 00:37:57,380 being asked to intercede on behalf of 853 00:38:01,150 --> 00:37:59,360 another group of angels called the 854 00:38:03,340 --> 00:38:01,160 Fallen Angels well you know what do we 855 00:38:06,580 --> 00:38:03,350 make of that well I think we look at 856 00:38:09,190 --> 00:38:06,590 that as not being kind of like mythology 857 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:09,200 but actually being a historical record 858 00:38:14,500 --> 00:38:11,570 of relationships between different 859 00:38:17,260 --> 00:38:14,510 extraterrestrial groups who ancient 860 00:38:18,730 --> 00:38:17,270 humans refer to as angels and that there 861 00:38:21,820 --> 00:38:18,740 was a conflict between them and that 862 00:38:24,970 --> 00:38:21,830 Enoch was summoned to be an intermediary 863 00:38:28,770 --> 00:38:24,980 between these conflicting angels and the 864 00:38:33,550 --> 00:38:28,780 books of Enoch actually describe how the 865 00:38:36,610 --> 00:38:33,560 angels that lost this pre-flood conflict 866 00:38:38,260 --> 00:38:36,620 or this war were banished down to 867 00:38:41,350 --> 00:38:38,270 Antarctica so here you had the entire 868 00:38:44,500 --> 00:38:41,360 connection in the Book of Enoch where it 869 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:44,510 describes the Enoch was taken to a land 870 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:48,650 in the far south where it blazed day and 871 00:38:54,700 --> 00:38:50,810 night so that's describing Antarctica 872 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:54,710 and it described a range of seven 873 00:38:59,520 --> 00:38:57,290 mountains where the watchers were buried 874 00:39:01,180 --> 00:38:59,530 or the Watchers were in prison for 875 00:39:02,830 --> 00:39:01,190 10,000 years 876 00:39:05,650 --> 00:39:02,840 so the Watchers were in prison for 877 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:05,660 10,000 years in this mountain range any 878 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:08,930 it describes Mount Vinson which is part 879 00:39:13,510 --> 00:39:11,690 of the Sentinel mountain ranges so right 880 00:39:15,550 --> 00:39:13,520 there you have quite a coincidence you 881 00:39:17,410 --> 00:39:15,560 know like The Sentinel mountain ranges 882 00:39:19,330 --> 00:39:17,420 and the Watchers but watches are buried 883 00:39:22,180 --> 00:39:19,340 in the Sentinel mountain 884 00:39:24,490 --> 00:39:22,190 and this dovetails with what recent 885 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:24,500 insiders have been telling us that there 886 00:39:29,050 --> 00:39:26,690 are these extraterrestrial mother ships 887 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:29,060 that are buried deep under the Antarctic 888 00:39:34,870 --> 00:39:32,330 ice and that the pre-adamite s-- are in 889 00:39:38,410 --> 00:39:34,880 stasis chambers there and they're about 890 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:38,420 to awaken and that the global elite the 891 00:39:44,110 --> 00:39:40,610 deep state people worship these 892 00:39:46,210 --> 00:39:44,120 pre-adamite as their genetic ancestors 893 00:39:49,900 --> 00:39:46,220 and they basically want to waken them 894 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:49,910 and restore them to the bolted positions 895 00:39:54,700 --> 00:39:53,450 that they once had so right there you 896 00:39:58,450 --> 00:39:54,710 have some really interesting 897 00:40:00,730 --> 00:39:58,460 developments as to what is actually very 898 00:40:03,010 --> 00:40:00,740 deep under the untidy crisis in terms of 899 00:40:05,110 --> 00:40:03,020 mother ships extraterrestrials buried 900 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:05,120 there or hidden there in stasis chambers 901 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:08,090 and is there a plan by the deep state to 902 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:10,130 awaken these people who have the 903 00:40:16,330 --> 00:40:13,010 elongated skulls and the forerunners 904 00:40:18,670 --> 00:40:16,340 full of worldwide civilization of homo 905 00:40:20,830 --> 00:40:18,680 capensis which is these elongated skull 906 00:40:24,070 --> 00:40:20,840 beings that these beings are going to 907 00:40:26,050 --> 00:40:24,080 come forward and maybe try to establish 908 00:40:28,870 --> 00:40:26,060 themselves as the global rulers again 909 00:40:30,610 --> 00:40:28,880 hmm I find that fascinating yeah the 910 00:40:32,050 --> 00:40:30,620 whole thing is a little convoluted I 911 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:32,060 mean especially with the ancient past 912 00:40:37,180 --> 00:40:34,850 there seems to be some collective memory 913 00:40:39,100 --> 00:40:37,190 though of a big conflict of epic scale 914 00:40:42,250 --> 00:40:39,110 probably exactly what we're talking 915 00:40:45,310 --> 00:40:42,260 about here and I had that in my notes as 916 00:40:47,770 --> 00:40:45,320 well that it seems like a faction of the 917 00:40:50,170 --> 00:40:47,780 current cabal might be working to try to 918 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:50,180 reanimate these people or to somehow 919 00:40:56,530 --> 00:40:53,690 bring them back and that is a creepy 920 00:40:59,950 --> 00:40:56,540 proposition but it's not the only 921 00:41:02,770 --> 00:40:59,960 non-human element at play here because 922 00:41:05,500 --> 00:41:02,780 the book talks largely about a reptilian 923 00:41:08,230 --> 00:41:05,510 faction that seems to be very much in 924 00:41:10,330 --> 00:41:08,240 line with the Germans of the Nazi Party 925 00:41:12,670 --> 00:41:10,340 or this faction that has helped them 926 00:41:14,970 --> 00:41:12,680 build their crafts and build up their 927 00:41:17,950 --> 00:41:14,980 bases in Antarctica but there's also 928 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:17,960 groups of Nordics that seem to be on the 929 00:41:22,470 --> 00:41:20,090 other side and aligned with us in 930 00:41:26,380 --> 00:41:22,480 different ways is that how you see it 931 00:41:29,020 --> 00:41:26,390 well that's right yes it's like what we 932 00:41:30,940 --> 00:41:29,030 was just discussing that conflict that 933 00:41:32,590 --> 00:41:30,950 was described in the book Sabine off 934 00:41:33,070 --> 00:41:32,600 between the positive angels and the 935 00:41:34,900 --> 00:41:33,080 negative 936 00:41:38,410 --> 00:41:34,910 just fallin and righteous angels and 937 00:41:40,750 --> 00:41:38,420 that tells us that these conflicts 938 00:41:42,660 --> 00:41:40,760 between the gods or the angels really 939 00:41:45,550 --> 00:41:42,670 represents different extraterrestrial 940 00:41:47,650 --> 00:41:45,560 factions that have been warring against 941 00:41:50,260 --> 00:41:47,660 one another for influence over the earth 942 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:50,270 for tens of thousands of years and so 943 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:52,610 with Germany Germany was no different in 944 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:55,130 the early 1920s you had a positive group 945 00:41:59,260 --> 00:41:57,050 of extraterrestrials human-looking 946 00:42:01,360 --> 00:41:59,270 extraterrestrials that first made 947 00:42:03,820 --> 00:42:01,370 contact with maria orsic in the thule 948 00:42:07,720 --> 00:42:03,830 society and they began helping them to 949 00:42:09,910 --> 00:42:07,730 develop this civilian space program that 950 00:42:12,310 --> 00:42:09,920 would help present this information to 951 00:42:14,890 --> 00:42:12,320 the entire planet so to begin with it 952 00:42:18,340 --> 00:42:14,900 began as a civilian effort to kind of 953 00:42:20,590 --> 00:42:18,350 like share this information widely but 954 00:42:24,220 --> 00:42:20,600 what happened was when Adolf Hitler came 955 00:42:28,170 --> 00:42:24,230 to power in 1933 because he represented 956 00:42:30,460 --> 00:42:28,180 a more aggressive nationalist political 957 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:30,470 orientation another group of 958 00:42:34,990 --> 00:42:33,170 extraterrestrials began to work with him 959 00:42:36,700 --> 00:42:35,000 because they were more in alignment him 960 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:36,710 and that is the reptilian group of 961 00:42:40,540 --> 00:42:38,930 extraterrestrials so right there you 962 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:40,550 have two different factions of 963 00:42:46,750 --> 00:42:44,450 extraterrestrials that began associating 964 00:42:49,300 --> 00:42:46,760 themselves with the Germans in the 965 00:42:53,050 --> 00:42:49,310 immediate post-war world one period and 966 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:53,060 during World War two and this is what 967 00:42:58,690 --> 00:42:56,090 was also occurring in Antartica you had 968 00:43:00,970 --> 00:42:58,700 the Germans some of them continued to 969 00:43:02,230 --> 00:43:00,980 work with this human-looking group in 970 00:43:04,810 --> 00:43:02,240 alignment with you know earth 971 00:43:07,240 --> 00:43:04,820 civilizations while another group of 972 00:43:09,790 --> 00:43:07,250 Germans continued to work with the 973 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:09,800 reptilians and build very big space 974 00:43:17,380 --> 00:43:13,210 fleets that would go into deep space and 975 00:43:20,410 --> 00:43:17,390 coordinate with the reptilians men so 976 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:20,420 you also mentioned whistleblowers and I 977 00:43:24,310 --> 00:43:22,010 got to ask you about these guys bill 978 00:43:26,260 --> 00:43:24,320 Tompkins and Corey Goode their 979 00:43:29,260 --> 00:43:26,270 testimonies are cited many times in the 980 00:43:31,810 --> 00:43:29,270 book personally I am really entertained 981 00:43:34,450 --> 00:43:31,820 by a lot of what they say but I just 982 00:43:36,250 --> 00:43:34,460 can't get over this twenty and back idea 983 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:36,260 that you sign up for the secret space 984 00:43:41,740 --> 00:43:39,170 program you do your 20 years and then 985 00:43:43,750 --> 00:43:41,750 they age regress you back and you fit 986 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:43,760 right back in where you were before the 987 00:43:46,830 --> 00:43:46,490 mission that part alone is just a really 988 00:43:49,980 --> 00:43:46,840 hard 989 00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:49,990 pill for me to swallow what can we look 990 00:43:54,090 --> 00:43:52,510 at to try to even halfway verify what 991 00:43:56,670 --> 00:43:54,100 these guys are saying I know you put 992 00:43:59,010 --> 00:43:56,680 some stock in these whistleblowers how 993 00:44:01,170 --> 00:43:59,020 have you vetted them or what can you say 994 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:01,180 to maybe make these claims seem more 995 00:44:06,690 --> 00:44:04,690 realistic incredible right well this is 996 00:44:10,020 --> 00:44:06,700 a number of things this let me approach 997 00:44:12,810 --> 00:44:10,030 that a number of ways firstly as far as 998 00:44:15,030 --> 00:44:12,820 the credibility of Corey Goode and 999 00:44:17,250 --> 00:44:15,040 William Tompkins is concerned what I've 1000 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:17,260 done in the book is match their 1001 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:19,770 testimonies or compared to what other 1002 00:44:26,070 --> 00:44:23,410 credible whistleblowers have told us one 1003 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:26,080 is Clark McClelland who worked with NASA 1004 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:28,930 he was a spacecraft operator he was with 1005 00:44:35,670 --> 00:44:32,890 NASA for believe it was 34 years and he 1006 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:35,680 confirmed a lot of what Cory Gordon 1007 00:44:38,970 --> 00:44:37,330 William Tompkins were saying about the 1008 00:44:41,940 --> 00:44:38,980 Germans establishing a secret space 1009 00:44:43,530 --> 00:44:41,950 program in Antartica and that they had 1010 00:44:46,890 --> 00:44:43,540 infiltrated the US military industrial 1011 00:44:49,710 --> 00:44:46,900 complex another insider source was 1012 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:49,720 Vladimir - zimsky who was a Bulgarian 1013 00:44:54,450 --> 00:44:52,330 engineer who was with the Bulgarian 1014 00:44:57,690 --> 00:44:54,460 Academy of Sciences and he was 1015 00:45:01,350 --> 00:44:57,700 instrumental in having a lot of the Nazi 1016 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:01,360 SS files that the KGB had in its 1017 00:45:06,660 --> 00:45:03,610 possession released after the collapse 1018 00:45:08,550 --> 00:45:06,670 of the Warsaw Pact in 1991 so you had a 1019 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:08,560 lot of that documentation coming forward 1020 00:45:13,620 --> 00:45:11,530 and all of that helps corroborate what 1021 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:13,630 Corey Goode and William Tompkins has 1022 00:45:19,140 --> 00:45:16,930 said in one of my previous books titled 1023 00:45:21,300 --> 00:45:19,150 the US Navy secret space program and 1024 00:45:23,850 --> 00:45:21,310 Nordica to treasure all Alliance are you 1025 00:45:26,430 --> 00:45:23,860 produce a lot of documents that show 1026 00:45:28,710 --> 00:45:26,440 that wouldn't on guns was who he says he 1027 00:45:31,110 --> 00:45:28,720 was that there was an ad program that 1028 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:31,120 was getting this kind of information now 1029 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:33,370 as far as the 20 impact program is 1030 00:45:39,300 --> 00:45:36,970 concerned what we see now is white world 1031 00:45:43,530 --> 00:45:39,310 science acknowledging that age 1032 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:43,540 aggression is viable scientific studies 1033 00:45:52,350 --> 00:45:47,010 have shown that you can actually regress 1034 00:45:54,900 --> 00:45:52,360 selves and organs years and so there's a 1035 00:45:56,940 --> 00:45:54,910 number of programs which are whitewall 1036 00:45:59,640 --> 00:45:56,950 programs that are now studying the 1037 00:46:00,750 --> 00:45:59,650 feasibility of this kind of age 1038 00:46:03,030 --> 00:46:00,760 regression 1039 00:46:06,630 --> 00:46:03,040 being used on humans and they're talking 1040 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:06,640 about the next five years being when 1041 00:46:12,090 --> 00:46:08,890 they are going to start laboratory 1042 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:12,100 experiments on humans so this is white 1043 00:46:16,860 --> 00:46:14,650 world technology now I think to those 1044 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:16,870 that are kind of familiar with a lot of 1045 00:46:22,140 --> 00:46:19,810 these covert programs understand that 1046 00:46:25,350 --> 00:46:22,150 what occurs in the covert programs are 1047 00:46:28,620 --> 00:46:25,360 generally 30 years or more ahead of the 1048 00:46:33,180 --> 00:46:28,630 white world so studies and programs so 1049 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:33,190 that means that if we now in 2018 are 1050 00:46:39,510 --> 00:46:36,610 actively implementing studies that age 1051 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:39,520 aggressed animals and are preparing to 1052 00:46:44,730 --> 00:46:41,770 use this on humans that means that this 1053 00:46:47,580 --> 00:46:44,740 was done in covert laboratories at least 1054 00:46:51,450 --> 00:46:47,590 30 years ago so that takes us to the 1055 00:46:54,390 --> 00:46:51,460 early 1990s at the very least old 1980s 1056 00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:54,400 and that's the period around which these 1057 00:46:59,100 --> 00:46:57,610 gentlemen Corey Goode William Tompkins 1058 00:47:01,530 --> 00:46:59,110 and others say that this kind of age 1059 00:47:05,310 --> 00:47:01,540 regression technologies began to be used 1060 00:47:08,250 --> 00:47:05,320 in the covert programs hmm that does 1061 00:47:10,050 --> 00:47:08,260 make some sense it is just a lot to take 1062 00:47:13,710 --> 00:47:10,060 in right there but of course if I'm 1063 00:47:17,130 --> 00:47:13,720 looking for some way to kind of you know 1064 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:17,140 accept this it is true that UFO 1065 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:19,450 encounters a lot of the time involve 1066 00:47:24,330 --> 00:47:22,210 missing time that people seem to just 1067 00:47:26,610 --> 00:47:24,340 have hours gone and they come back to 1068 00:47:30,240 --> 00:47:26,620 their same time in place and of course 1069 00:47:33,900 --> 00:47:30,250 that's a short scale version but again 1070 00:47:37,500 --> 00:47:33,910 we're at that same nexus of UFOs of time 1071 00:47:39,860 --> 00:47:37,510 manipulation age regression it kind of 1072 00:47:43,350 --> 00:47:39,870 fits when you think about it that way 1073 00:47:46,410 --> 00:47:43,360 right in this whole thing of age going 1074 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:46,420 back to what the ancient records if we 1075 00:47:51,570 --> 00:47:49,090 go to the Old Testament it talks about 1076 00:47:56,820 --> 00:47:51,580 these pre diluvial figures like 1077 00:47:59,220 --> 00:47:56,830 Methuselah and Lamar and Noah and Jared 1078 00:48:02,700 --> 00:47:59,230 all of these guys they barely to a 1079 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:02,710 thousand years and then the Bible talks 1080 00:48:08,220 --> 00:48:06,130 about those after the great flood living 1081 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:08,230 multiple centuries and then by the time 1082 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:09,970 you get to Moses you know Moses lived 1083 00:48:13,410 --> 00:48:11,770 150 and then of course we're getting 1084 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:13,420 Saul and David and so forth and they 1085 00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:14,410 living normal 1086 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:16,089 I've spent I slept well what happened I 1087 00:48:22,620 --> 00:48:20,770 think these ancient societies did have 1088 00:48:24,539 --> 00:48:22,630 technologies where they could live a 1089 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:24,549 very long time and the consciousness was 1090 00:48:28,829 --> 00:48:26,890 different as well so you know this whole 1091 00:48:31,380 --> 00:48:28,839 kind of consciousness and technology 1092 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:31,390 interface is very very important and so 1093 00:48:37,010 --> 00:48:33,970 I think that in this pre-flood era 1094 00:48:40,950 --> 00:48:37,020 people could live a thousand years and 1095 00:48:44,250 --> 00:48:40,960 now we've gone down a downward curve in 1096 00:48:46,079 --> 00:48:44,260 terms of age around 7080 years but now 1097 00:48:47,430 --> 00:48:46,089 we're on that upward curve again and I 1098 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:47,440 think we're starting to see with the 1099 00:48:51,390 --> 00:48:49,210 technology being released we're starting 1100 00:48:53,250 --> 00:48:51,400 to see it with the secret space program 1101 00:48:55,349 --> 00:48:53,260 insiders coming forward talking about 1102 00:48:58,109 --> 00:48:55,359 how these technologies are being used 1103 00:49:00,510 --> 00:48:58,119 and they could live a long time how many 1104 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:00,520 people involved in the program's 1105 00:49:04,289 --> 00:49:02,650 themselves commit for centuries the 1106 00:49:06,240 --> 00:49:04,299 Nordics and others can live for a 1107 00:49:08,910 --> 00:49:06,250 thousand years so I think we're now on 1108 00:49:11,970 --> 00:49:08,920 an upward climb where human lifespan is 1109 00:49:15,210 --> 00:49:11,980 going to be extended so this whole idea 1110 00:49:17,700 --> 00:49:15,220 of age regression what's really 1111 00:49:19,859 --> 00:49:17,710 happening is that we are purifying the 1112 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:19,869 human body which has within it the 1113 00:49:25,109 --> 00:49:22,690 inherent genetic disposition for living 1114 00:49:28,319 --> 00:49:25,119 a thousand years in a youthful young 1115 00:49:31,319 --> 00:49:28,329 body and we are removing from it all the 1116 00:49:35,370 --> 00:49:31,329 toxic pollutants and the thought forms 1117 00:49:37,049 --> 00:49:35,380 that have made us age to where we are so 1118 00:49:38,910 --> 00:49:37,059 I think this whole idea of age 1119 00:49:41,309 --> 00:49:38,920 regression it's going to become bigger 1120 00:49:43,890 --> 00:49:41,319 and bigger and bigger and ultimately it 1121 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:43,900 is something that all of us are gonna 1122 00:49:49,260 --> 00:49:46,770 start practicing to extend our lifespans 1123 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:49,270 hmm it seems like it might be an 1124 00:49:53,670 --> 00:49:51,010 expensive process I don't know if it's 1125 00:49:56,730 --> 00:49:53,680 gonna filter down to your average person 1126 00:49:58,710 --> 00:49:56,740 and dr. Salah I find this all to be 1127 00:50:00,450 --> 00:49:58,720 fascinating stuff I do think a lot of 1128 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:00,460 the pieces and elements line up nicely 1129 00:50:05,279 --> 00:50:02,770 it's far out but it might be one of the 1130 00:50:07,170 --> 00:50:05,289 biggest secrets out there so people can 1131 00:50:08,609 --> 00:50:07,180 follow your work tell them about your 1132 00:50:14,039 --> 00:50:08,619 website and anything else you got going 1133 00:50:14,519 --> 00:50:14,049 on so my website is Excel politics org 1134 00:50:19,019 --> 00:50:14,529 that's 1135 00:50:21,660 --> 00:50:19,029 EXO politics Oh RG there I'm regularly 1136 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:21,670 putting up new articles so you can read 1137 00:50:24,900 --> 00:50:23,170 all of those all of that for free I've 1138 00:50:27,990 --> 00:50:24,910 got a few books on the secret space 1139 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:28,000 programs the third book in the series is 1140 00:50:32,070 --> 00:50:30,130 tolik has hidden history you could 1141 00:50:33,930 --> 00:50:32,080 either get that from my website an 1142 00:50:36,510 --> 00:50:33,940 autographed copy or you can get it from 1143 00:50:38,100 --> 00:50:36,520 Amazon and I'll be doing a number of 1144 00:50:41,670 --> 00:50:38,110 appearances soon I'll be going to 1145 00:50:43,890 --> 00:50:41,680 contact in the desert in Palm Springs at 1146 00:50:46,170 --> 00:50:43,900 the end of May beginning of June and 1147 00:50:48,420 --> 00:50:46,180 then later there'll be a conference our 1148 00:50:51,090 --> 00:50:48,430 dimensions of disclosure with Corey good 1149 00:50:54,990 --> 00:50:51,100 and I'll also be doing a webinar on 1150 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:55,000 Antarctica sometime in August so all of 1151 00:50:58,980 --> 00:50:56,410 those things you can go to my website 1152 00:51:01,470 --> 00:50:58,990 and get information about that awesome 1153 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:01,480 well this has been a great time big 1154 00:51:05,460 --> 00:51:03,130 thanks to you for being here and for 1155 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:05,470 walking the path less traveled ooh take 1156 00:51:09,780 --> 00:51:06,850 care out there and keep fighting the 1157 00:51:11,430 --> 00:51:09,790 good fight thanks so much great thanks 1158 00:51:13,340 --> 00:51:11,440 for all you do to bring this information 1159 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:13,350 out into the public Aloha 1160 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:16,930 there it is dear listeners there it is 1161 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:20,290 dr. Michael Sala been a long time coming 1162 00:51:23,850 --> 00:51:22,090 and you got to love those birds in the 1163 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:23,860 background that's what happens when you 1164 00:51:28,140 --> 00:51:26,170 do an interview outside I tried to cut a 1165 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:28,150 lot of the chirping out but it's hard to 1166 00:51:34,290 --> 00:51:32,410 fully quell mother nature as we know but 1167 00:51:35,790 --> 00:51:34,300 dr. Sol as someone who's been requested 1168 00:51:37,050 --> 00:51:35,800 many times over the years and I'm glad 1169 00:51:39,270 --> 00:51:37,060 we could finally make it happen 1170 00:51:41,310 --> 00:51:39,280 especially after seeing an entire book 1171 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:41,320 focused directly on the Antarctica 1172 00:51:46,650 --> 00:51:43,810 aspects of the big conspiracy funny 1173 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:46,660 enough I got this request specifically 1174 00:51:51,150 --> 00:51:49,090 from the Plus forum and the person who 1175 00:51:54,450 --> 00:51:51,160 requested it followed up on their post 1176 00:51:56,490 --> 00:51:54,460 with this message where they said it was 1177 00:51:58,590 --> 00:51:56,500 a waste of time to post this Karl Wood 1178 00:52:01,140 --> 00:51:58,600 is too close-minded for this info and he 1179 00:52:02,790 --> 00:52:01,150 ignores 99% of the suggestions he gets 1180 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:02,800 he doesn't give a [\h__\h] about his 1181 00:52:07,530 --> 00:52:05,490 listeners or just a cash cow for him and 1182 00:52:09,690 --> 00:52:07,540 that's just not true 1183 00:52:12,210 --> 00:52:09,700 you're not just a cash cow for me 1184 00:52:14,580 --> 00:52:12,220 clearly I'm not too close-minded for the 1185 00:52:16,770 --> 00:52:14,590 information and maybe I do check the 1186 00:52:20,130 --> 00:52:16,780 forms for suggestions and maybe I have a 1187 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:20,140 list of about 200 people long and I also 1188 00:52:24,210 --> 00:52:22,210 have publishers and potential guests 1189 00:52:26,430 --> 00:52:24,220 writing me themselves all the time on 1190 00:52:29,130 --> 00:52:26,440 top of people that I'm really trying to 1191 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:29,140 get so sometimes you just got to trust 1192 00:52:34,010 --> 00:52:31,090 me that I'll get to certain people and 1193 00:52:37,110 --> 00:52:34,020 certain topics when I can and be patient 1194 00:52:40,980 --> 00:52:37,120 five shows a month does not take long to 1195 00:52:41,570 --> 00:52:40,990 fill up so go easy on me I already had 1196 00:52:44,090 --> 00:52:41,580 two 1197 00:52:47,900 --> 00:52:44,100 a recent tolerance break from anything 1198 00:52:50,690 --> 00:52:47,910 related to THC and it felt good just to 1199 00:52:53,180 --> 00:52:50,700 decompress a bit and I'll never forget 1200 00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:53,190 how lucky I am to have this job but 1201 00:52:58,790 --> 00:52:56,610 sometimes it's a job and the customers 1202 00:53:00,860 --> 00:52:58,800 insult me in the same breath they're 1203 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:00,870 requesting something from me sometimes 1204 00:53:05,150 --> 00:53:02,370 it doesn't feel that much different from 1205 00:53:06,490 --> 00:53:05,160 retail at all but at least I can do it 1206 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:06,500 from home 1207 00:53:11,720 --> 00:53:09,330 but getting back to doctor Salle's book 1208 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:11,730 and the content he lays out I've said 1209 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:12,930 this before so it shouldn't be a 1210 00:53:17,540 --> 00:53:15,090 surprise I said it to doctor Saleh 1211 00:53:20,300 --> 00:53:17,550 earlier but I have this problem with the 1212 00:53:21,950 --> 00:53:20,310 super-soldier 20 and back whistleblowers 1213 00:53:25,190 --> 00:53:21,960 there's a couple of them out there now 1214 00:53:27,170 --> 00:53:25,200 they just don't ring true to me which 1215 00:53:30,290 --> 00:53:27,180 does not mean I wouldn't have them on 1216 00:53:33,290 --> 00:53:30,300 the show but they're definitely not the 1217 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:33,300 first group of people I'm trying to go 1218 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:36,210 for and as much as they are referenced 1219 00:53:41,180 --> 00:53:38,610 in the book and the interview that we 1220 00:53:44,450 --> 00:53:41,190 just had thankfully I don't think the 1221 00:53:47,020 --> 00:53:44,460 narrative overall depends on them but 1222 00:53:49,670 --> 00:53:47,030 again and something I do like is that 1223 00:53:52,070 --> 00:53:49,680 channelled information is at the heart 1224 00:53:54,530 --> 00:53:52,080 of this whole thing maria orsic and 1225 00:53:58,760 --> 00:53:54,540 Tesla both seemed to be in contact with 1226 00:54:00,740 --> 00:53:58,770 something giving them technology but 1227 00:54:03,220 --> 00:54:00,750 when I asked doctor Saleh for the best 1228 00:54:05,540 --> 00:54:03,230 evidence that the Nazis actually escaped 1229 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:05,550 because when we talk to you a guy like 1230 00:54:09,890 --> 00:54:07,530 Joseph Ferrell about this he thinks that 1231 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:09,900 it's too big of a job to not have a huge 1232 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:13,290 paper trail and I respect that but dr. 1233 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:16,010 Salah thought the best evidence was 1234 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:18,810 Admiral Byrd's massive convoy down there 1235 00:54:24,230 --> 00:54:21,690 why send it and I think that's a fair 1236 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:24,240 point you could say there's a parallel 1237 00:54:29,270 --> 00:54:26,970 between the Roswell crash and saying it 1238 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:29,280 was aliens and the Byrd expedition and 1239 00:54:33,590 --> 00:54:30,650 saying it was about the Hollow Earth 1240 00:54:37,010 --> 00:54:33,600 both are sort of huge over-the-top 1241 00:54:40,730 --> 00:54:37,020 stories to distract and bury the very 1242 00:54:43,550 --> 00:54:40,740 real reality of this Nazi saucer Factory 1243 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:43,560 in the land of ice I don't really take 1244 00:54:48,470 --> 00:54:45,930 that perspective but I could see where 1245 00:54:51,500 --> 00:54:48,480 someone would because it kind of fits in 1246 00:54:54,170 --> 00:54:51,510 that Cortlandt all type of way of hey 1247 00:54:55,340 --> 00:54:54,180 we're putting something out there but 1248 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:55,350 there's really a deeper 1249 00:54:59,510 --> 00:54:56,970 and that's where the truth is rather 1250 00:55:01,670 --> 00:54:59,520 than the sensationalist aspects at least 1251 00:55:02,690 --> 00:55:01,680 says his take and I think sometimes he's 1252 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:02,700 absolutely right 1253 00:55:10,490 --> 00:55:06,530 and I could see at the time how the 1254 00:55:13,490 --> 00:55:10,500 establishment would be happy having you 1255 00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:13,500 believe anything except that Nazis 1256 00:55:18,260 --> 00:55:15,330 escaped and are flying around in flying 1257 00:55:20,240 --> 00:55:18,270 saucers I also think the timeline of 1258 00:55:22,510 --> 00:55:20,250 this stuff syncs up really well let's 1259 00:55:25,730 --> 00:55:22,520 look at that timeline he pulled together 1260 00:55:27,950 --> 00:55:25,740 1919 Brill get a message then there's 1261 00:55:31,430 --> 00:55:27,960 years of development with multiple 1262 00:55:33,020 --> 00:55:31,440 rounds and multiple models of craft the 1263 00:55:37,490 --> 00:55:33,030 Germans go to South America and 1264 00:55:39,770 --> 00:55:37,500 Antarctica early in the 1940s UFOs are 1265 00:55:43,100 --> 00:55:39,780 seen everywhere by 1947 1266 00:55:47,030 --> 00:55:43,110 operation Highjump finds them in 1947 1267 00:55:50,090 --> 00:55:47,040 the CIA is created in 1947 Operation 1268 00:55:52,550 --> 00:55:50,100 Paperclip makes contact and secret deals 1269 00:55:55,940 --> 00:55:52,560 with the Antarctic side diplomatic 1270 00:56:00,530 --> 00:55:55,950 negotiations ensue then a few years 1271 00:56:04,550 --> 00:56:00,540 after 1947 in 1952 is that UFO White 1272 00:56:07,510 --> 00:56:04,560 House fly over and then in 1955 the 1273 00:56:10,850 --> 00:56:07,520 dealing opened up more cooperation and 1274 00:56:13,100 --> 00:56:10,860 us-russian facilities in Antarctica then 1275 00:56:17,210 --> 00:56:13,110 you got the out there stuff in 1960 of 1276 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:17,220 the saucer fueled manned missions to the 1277 00:56:23,030 --> 00:56:20,370 moon Mars and beyond occurring from that 1278 00:56:24,980 --> 00:56:23,040 Antarctic base we see all that stuff 1279 00:56:27,500 --> 00:56:24,990 happening in the 1961 there's that 1280 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:27,510 Antarctic Treaty and then there's a big 1281 00:56:33,830 --> 00:56:30,690 gap until 2001 when apparently that Lake 1282 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:33,840 Vostok anomaly got on the radar and now 1283 00:56:37,940 --> 00:56:35,610 we have all this increased activity down 1284 00:56:40,940 --> 00:56:37,950 there I mean there are some huge holes 1285 00:56:44,210 --> 00:56:40,950 some huge blind spots in that time line 1286 00:56:47,150 --> 00:56:44,220 but in my worldview in my conspiratorial 1287 00:56:49,970 --> 00:56:47,160 tapestry if you will I think that is a 1288 00:56:51,620 --> 00:56:49,980 pretty strong thread then we throw 1289 00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:51,630 gasoline on that fire with the 1290 00:56:56,780 --> 00:56:53,490 pre-adamite being thought out and all 1291 00:57:00,020 --> 00:56:56,790 that jazz and that to me is what makes a 1292 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:00,030 good THC show we definitely at you with 1293 00:57:04,070 --> 00:57:01,770 some education not in the mainstream 1294 00:57:07,310 --> 00:57:04,080 narrative and then we pop you with some 1295 00:57:09,019 --> 00:57:07,320 way more speculative elements that can 1296 00:57:13,399 --> 00:57:09,029 also be peppered in 1297 00:57:17,059 --> 00:57:13,409 to say maybe this thing has many many 1298 00:57:19,039 --> 00:57:17,069 wild wild layers but even if you just 1299 00:57:21,799 --> 00:57:19,049 want to get into it from a conventional 1300 00:57:23,390 --> 00:57:21,809 politics way you can almost do that and 1301 00:57:24,759 --> 00:57:23,400 I still think it's great I still think 1302 00:57:28,009 --> 00:57:24,769 it's explosive 1303 00:57:31,159 --> 00:57:28,019 obviously dr. Saleh is a big name in the 1304 00:57:32,689 --> 00:57:31,169 ufology and Exopolitics community and I 1305 00:57:35,149 --> 00:57:32,699 am pleased that he would honor my 1306 00:57:38,089 --> 00:57:35,159 request and I'm thankful to the cranky 1307 00:57:39,469 --> 00:57:38,099 listener even who recommended him but 1308 00:57:42,799 --> 00:57:39,479 that's another thing if you recommend 1309 00:57:45,019 --> 00:57:42,809 someone and if I do see it and if I do 1310 00:57:47,479 --> 00:57:45,029 actually get the time to digest the 1311 00:57:50,239 --> 00:57:47,489 material which is often not something 1312 00:57:52,189 --> 00:57:50,249 you can just skim and then if I think 1313 00:57:54,859 --> 00:57:52,199 it's a good fit they have to actually 1314 00:57:56,299 --> 00:57:54,869 respond to me and want to do it so 1315 00:57:58,999 --> 00:57:56,309 there's a fair amount of steps in that 1316 00:58:02,179 --> 00:57:59,009 process I mean we're not Alcoholics 1317 00:58:04,189 --> 00:58:02,189 Anonymous but we're up there and the big 1318 00:58:08,149 --> 00:58:04,199 thing here that got me reflecting was 1319 00:58:10,219 --> 00:58:08,159 that 1952 White House flyover I've heard 1320 00:58:12,769 --> 00:58:10,229 some researchers saying that this was a 1321 00:58:15,859 --> 00:58:12,779 direct ET threat for not giving back the 1322 00:58:17,239 --> 00:58:15,869 bodies and saucer from Roswell and when 1323 00:58:19,579 --> 00:58:17,249 I was a kid who didn't know much about 1324 00:58:22,699 --> 00:58:19,589 this post-war Nazi element that made 1325 00:58:25,219 --> 00:58:22,709 sense but it seems like a very human 1326 00:58:27,919 --> 00:58:25,229 action only humans are gonna care about 1327 00:58:30,620 --> 00:58:27,929 the posturing of a White House flyover 1328 00:58:32,719 --> 00:58:30,630 so the idea that it was part of a strong 1329 00:58:34,729 --> 00:58:32,729 arming of negotiations leading up to 1330 00:58:37,519 --> 00:58:34,739 some kind of deal makes the most sense 1331 00:58:39,589 --> 00:58:37,529 to me maybe Nazis were partnered with 1332 00:58:41,359 --> 00:58:39,599 these beans maybe they brought alien 1333 00:58:44,179 --> 00:58:41,369 demands to the bargaining table as well 1334 00:58:46,969 --> 00:58:44,189 as their own but either way I love 1335 00:58:49,969 --> 00:58:46,979 hearing about it of course I'm skeptical 1336 00:58:52,279 --> 00:58:49,979 of any disclosure from the top down but 1337 00:58:55,339 --> 00:58:52,289 that we need a new Industrial Revolution 1338 00:58:57,769 --> 00:58:55,349 to stay on top argument is probably the 1339 00:58:59,630 --> 00:58:57,779 best sounding one but it implies that 1340 00:59:01,039 --> 00:58:59,640 people who already have this stuff and 1341 00:59:04,339 --> 00:59:01,049 hundreds of millions of dollars it 1342 00:59:08,179 --> 00:59:04,349 implies that they care about us which is 1343 00:59:09,859 --> 00:59:08,189 a nice sentiment but come on they might 1344 00:59:11,569 --> 00:59:09,869 care about their companies and if 1345 00:59:13,969 --> 00:59:11,579 they're having problems and could usher 1346 00:59:16,989 --> 00:59:13,979 in all this new technology and make 1347 00:59:19,339 --> 00:59:16,999 millions more now there's an incentive 1348 00:59:21,319 --> 00:59:19,349 I've been saying it for a while now too 1349 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:21,329 but the Trump stuff is pretty compelling 1350 00:59:24,620 --> 00:59:22,890 just John gee 1351 00:59:27,410 --> 00:59:24,630 Trump and Hannover Bush talking about 1352 00:59:29,539 --> 00:59:27,420 exotic energy systems and the damn Trump 1353 00:59:33,490 --> 00:59:29,549 name showing up on the del Chou drawings 1354 00:59:35,630 --> 00:59:33,500 numbered 4500 that stuff is crazy I 1355 00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:35,640 wonder if we'll ever get the full 1356 00:59:41,299 --> 00:59:37,650 picture but I try to just stay neutral 1357 00:59:43,490 --> 00:59:41,309 until we see something tangible this is 1358 00:59:45,529 --> 00:59:43,500 one of those topics that take so much 1359 00:59:47,299 --> 00:59:45,539 context and I really wanted to go 1360 00:59:49,190 --> 00:59:47,309 through it chronologically because I 1361 00:59:51,079 --> 00:59:49,200 think the bullet points of the timeline 1362 00:59:54,140 --> 00:59:51,089 is what makes the best argument for the 1363 00:59:56,809 --> 00:59:54,150 case overall but I realized 30 minutes 1364 00:59:59,150 --> 00:59:56,819 in that we weren't gonna get as deep 1365 01:00:00,799 --> 00:59:59,160 into the modern parts of the story as I 1366 01:00:02,329 --> 01:00:00,809 would have wanted in the first hour so 1367 01:00:04,190 --> 01:00:02,339 we switched it a little bit and I jumped 1368 01:00:07,009 --> 01:00:04,200 to the end to try to get those free 1369 01:00:09,799 --> 01:00:07,019 listeners some of that good stuff but it 1370 01:00:12,019 --> 01:00:09,809 is the plus show that really shines with 1371 01:00:14,450 --> 01:00:12,029 new information because we get into the 1372 01:00:16,670 --> 01:00:14,460 use of slave labor in Antarctica which 1373 01:00:18,710 --> 01:00:16,680 is a big part of his book other inner 1374 01:00:22,099 --> 01:00:18,720 earth elements of the bigger story a 1375 01:00:25,250 --> 01:00:22,109 deeper breakdown of how that 1952 UFO 1376 01:00:28,009 --> 01:00:25,260 white house flyover is related and also 1377 01:00:29,990 --> 01:00:28,019 what dr. Saleh expects to see happening 1378 01:00:32,509 --> 01:00:30,000 in the next decade or two relating to 1379 01:00:34,279 --> 01:00:32,519 these technologies and of course all 1380 01:00:35,809 --> 01:00:34,289 this business about the pre-adamite sand 1381 01:00:39,890 --> 01:00:35,819 the elites goal of reviving them 1382 01:00:42,170 --> 01:00:39,900 reptilians - it is all in the mix so if 1383 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:42,180 you like the higher side chats if you've 1384 01:00:46,009 --> 01:00:44,250 enjoyed the years of shows I've done 1385 01:00:48,140 --> 01:00:46,019 please sign up to hear the second hour 1386 01:00:50,569 --> 01:00:48,150 this is a damn good one to start with 1387 01:00:53,839 --> 01:00:50,579 but there are so many waiting for you 1388 01:00:56,359 --> 01:00:53,849 and your subscriptions keep me going but 1389 01:00:58,190 --> 01:00:56,369 really just do it for you not me do it 1390 01:01:01,450 --> 01:00:58,200 because you like the show I make and you 1391 01:01:04,549 --> 01:01:01,460 want to hear more of it cash cow or not 1392 01:01:07,279 --> 01:01:04,559 so I did want to say also in THC news 1393 01:01:10,609 --> 01:01:07,289 women's t-shirts are about a week away 1394 01:01:12,529 --> 01:01:10,619 I'm generating skews now had a developer 1395 01:01:14,359 --> 01:01:12,539 work on the website a little bit just to 1396 01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:14,369 straighten out how the images were 1397 01:01:18,529 --> 01:01:16,650 displayed and I know I got a lot of 1398 01:01:20,870 --> 01:01:18,539 ladies asking about that it is very 1399 01:01:23,690 --> 01:01:20,880 close I just need to get my latest 1400 01:01:26,599 --> 01:01:23,700 interview over to the editor enjoy the 1401 01:01:28,789 --> 01:01:26,609 three day III pass I got hooked up with 1402 01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:28,799 get back down to San Diego and crank out 1403 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:29,730 the rest of the month 1404 01:01:33,559 --> 01:01:31,890 I feel like we're on a roll with some 1405 01:01:35,839 --> 01:01:33,569 really strong shows even though mark 1406 01:01:36,590 --> 01:01:35,849 passio is a bit more split than I would 1407 01:01:38,710 --> 01:01:36,600 have thought 1408 01:01:42,170 --> 01:01:38,720 I'd still count him in the plus column 1409 01:01:45,110 --> 01:01:42,180 but Michel one susquehanna alchemy and 1410 01:01:48,380 --> 01:01:45,120 Jason Louvre on John Dee loved both 1411 01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:48,390 those shows and they pair nicely so I 1412 01:01:53,510 --> 01:01:50,850 did take a few risks with the scheduling 1413 01:01:55,550 --> 01:01:53,520 this month we might run into some hits 1414 01:01:57,590 --> 01:01:55,560 and misses and if that happens I'll 1415 01:02:00,230 --> 01:01:57,600 steer us right back on course with some 1416 01:02:03,050 --> 01:02:00,240 guarantees I can depend on but we're 1417 01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:03,060 always going for gold so we'll see what 1418 01:02:08,750 --> 01:02:06,090 happens I hope you trust me by now to 1419 01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:08,760 know when a course correction is needed 1420 01:02:12,460 --> 01:02:10,290 and at least see where I'm coming from 1421 01:02:15,260 --> 01:02:12,470 with some of the chances that I do take 1422 01:02:17,870 --> 01:02:15,270 but I will see you as the road unfolds 1423 01:02:21,020 --> 01:02:17,880 again sign up for THC plus at the higher 1424 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:21,030 side chats plus com it's only 5 bucks 1425 01:02:25,970 --> 01:02:23,010 and you get a shitload of benefits and 1426 01:02:27,830 --> 01:02:25,980 twice as much show and I'm getting out 1427 01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:27,840 of here big thanks again to dr. Michael 1428 01:02:32,990 --> 01:02:29,970 Salah and all you fine folks out there 1429 01:02:33,470 --> 01:02:33,000 in my digital Wonderland I've done my 1430 01:02:36,110 --> 01:02:33,480 part 1431 01:02:37,910 --> 01:02:36,120 your move Antarctic Nazis and our earth 1432 01:02:41,750 --> 01:02:37,920 reptiles and Prieta mites of the 1433 01:02:46,310 --> 01:02:41,760 apocalypse your [\h__\h] move 1434 01:02:50,660 --> 01:02:46,320 this is important here what I said I'm 1435 01:02:58,710 --> 01:02:50,670 trying to tell you it's not paranoia and 1436 01:03:08,490 --> 01:03:02,910 who asked you a question I know your 1437 01:03:10,530 --> 01:03:08,500 head is still in the same movie shape - 1438 01:03:14,250 --> 01:03:10,540 you slaughter for the rest of your life 1439 01:03:56,940 --> 01:03:14,260 oppressed oppressed but you say you 1440 01:04:01,230 --> 01:03:56,950 don't you sit and wish but we don't have 1441 01:04:04,670 --> 01:04:01,240 a choice it seems we're stuck here but 1442 01:04:09,540 --> 01:04:04,680 you can find no sister on out the noise 1443 01:04:15,030 --> 01:04:09,550 now use that altar and of your magic 1444 01:04:19,820 --> 01:04:15,040 game listen to the XP you know go with 1445 01:04:22,460 --> 01:04:19,830 the entity if you ever see thank you 1446 01:04:24,359 --> 01:04:22,470 to be a slaughter for the rest of your 1447 01:04:26,579 --> 01:04:24,369 life though presto 1448 01:04:30,300 --> 01:04:26,589 but you're getting room you say you 1449 01:04:45,340 --> 01:04:30,310 don't want to be stressed until the day 1450 01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:02,320 [Music] 1451 01:05:30,330 --> 01:05:27,610 don't be cheap serious lotta for the 1452 01:05:32,340 --> 01:05:30,340 rest of your life oppressed oppressed 1453 01:05:35,980 --> 01:05:32,350 but you're getting more you say you 1454 01:06:08,020 --> 01:05:51,110 [Music]